Author Topic: NoTV 2 Mafia (Game Over, Scum and 3rd Party Win) (Read 98224 times)

PX · « **Reply #900 on:** October 18, 2014, 04:51:59 PM »

Except scum had a one shot strong arm, so there should be a town protective role or else

PX · « **Reply #901 on:** October 18, 2014, 04:52:30 PM »

That or they role copped Dormio to be a doctor on N1 but

PX · « **Reply #902 on:** October 18, 2014, 04:54:12 PM »

Conq also said his N3 action had a weird result, so I take that as he was blocked

Affinity · « **Reply #903 on:** October 18, 2014, 05:28:25 PM »

@PX: It is MyLO, meaning that a mislynch is confirmed to lose the game for town (but a no-lynch is not).

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #904 on:** October 18, 2014, 05:35:59 PM »

i dont understand if mitsuki is jailer cant she block the night kill making it potential mylo?
also looks like everyone is assuming theres only 1 scum so ill go with it two. i never really understood mafia numbers :X

PX · « **Reply #905 on:** October 18, 2014, 05:47:26 PM »

2 scum 4 town. Mitsuki is odd night only (it's night 6)

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #906 on:** October 18, 2014, 05:59:06 PM »

Quote from: Mitsuki on October 18, 2014, 09:14:30 AM

Can someone tell me recent games where Rawr has been scum?

i think my last game as scum was affinitys last game he hosted which ended in me getting modkilled. i think it was nhk mafia or something but the tl;dr scum team was retarded in several ways

CF7 · « **Reply #907 on:** October 18, 2014, 05:59:50 PM »

Mitsuki, why did you target me on N1?

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #908 on:** October 18, 2014, 06:00:36 PM »

ive also learned from my mistakes so no i didnt vote my scum buddy shadoweh right when i replaced in

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #909 on:** October 18, 2014, 06:01:36 PM »

i could have worded that better but im pretty sure people get the idea

Mitsuki · « **Reply #910 on:** October 18, 2014, 06:24:43 PM »

Quote from: CF7 on October 18, 2014, 05:59:50 PM

Mitsuki, why did you target me on N1?

jailor = doc + roleblocker
scum had no nightkill, so I used it for the roleblock part

CF7 · « **Reply #911 on:** October 18, 2014, 06:46:13 PM »

Yes, but why me? Or rather why did you use it in the first place? Considering that scum had no NK on N1, blocking potential town PR's is bad too.

Mitsuki · « **Reply #912 on:** October 18, 2014, 08:43:05 PM »

Because I thought you were scum

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #913 on:** October 19, 2014, 03:38:11 AM »

Still at festival

Think Mitsuki/PX scum team please consider.

PX · « **Reply #914 on:** October 19, 2014, 03:45:46 AM »

Quote from: Sky_Paladin on October 19, 2014, 03:38:11 AM

Still at festival

Think Mitsuki/PX scum team please consider.

No because why?

That said, at least Sky Palladium is TRYING. Unlike the rest of you all. God, just vote BT guys if you're not going to do anything for the day.

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #915 on:** October 19, 2014, 04:14:15 AM »

Quote from: Sky_Paladin on October 19, 2014, 03:38:11 AM

Think Mitsuki/PX scum team please consider.

i cant imagine px throwing his cum buddy under the bus with incredibly sketchy reason as role info that wasnt even in dorians flip.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #916 on:** October 19, 2014, 03:16:29 PM »

I;m exhausted.

I will check in the morning but you guys can do something too.

Mitsuuki claimed target Conq n3 but he said anybody targeting him got sabbed re: SB and Shadoweh (which is how we caught Shadoweh not incidentally) but Mitsuki didn't mention being roleblocked N3. She only mentioned eing rolebocked n5. When she targets PX.

PX said the wording "Mitsuki is confirme town" but the only way from his position he could know that is if he has a night action that was nightblocked. but Mitsuki said her action was locked. So we have an issue to solve.

PX did not throw Raikaria under a bus under sketchy circumstances. Raikaria attacked him, I voted first, PX joined after, then Dorian did his thing and exploded when Raikaria was about ot be lnched.

Ill vote after I had a chance to read. I'm really interested in reading what Mitsuki said/did day 3 before/after Conq said he roleblocked anybody who targeted him, and Mitsuki said now she targeted him.

Also before I forget, Mitsuki didn't claim in a town way.
Town way claim is : Hi I am this role/flavor, on night 1 I did xyz because of so-and-so, on night 2 I did abc because whatever. We saw this with Raikaria - we had to drag his fake night actions out of him (or maybe that was another game, I can't remember) and it's scum.

Mitsuki, why did you target PX night 5? Why did you target Conqueror night 3?

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #917 on:** October 19, 2014, 03:20:11 PM »

Also I'm not really sure but I think if Conq was really jailed it would have impacted the moonstone movement from player to player, got to go check where that went too.

BT · « **Reply #918 on:** October 19, 2014, 03:41:52 PM »

PX's recent squabbling over Mitsuki's claim is townie and Mitsuki's claim is townie (and also makes sense with the whole N2 commuting thing along with Cop Dan). Recruit circumstances makes me pretty confident it's Sky. As for the final scum - probably CF7. I mean, it's not like townie-replacement-rawr churned out content as expected from a townie replacement, but I still don't think his reactions are staged. Plus I don't think it's rawr/Sky because they both addressed the errata thing and tried fishing for townclears that way and it'd be super awkward on their end as scumbuddies. CF7 has been a dead slot walking for the first half in the game and has probably been subject to free bussing since he was barely playing. I don't remember a recent post by him (last few days) that made me think town and even when I defended his lynch back in D2/D3 it was because I saw both town and scum motivation for his posts (as opposed to "only scum motivation" from Medaka D1 - but it's dumb treating that as a rule of thumb). I would scour the thread for evidence but I'm procrastinating.

Sky's case for Mitsuki/PX is bad because it ignores... everything? And hinges on a small interaction instead. And the way he addresses Mitsuki's claim reminds me of how scum Raikaria tried spinning my jailor claim against me in Mitsuki's game (trying to say it's convenient). Wasn't Conq's reflexive roleblock active on N4, not N3?

##Vote Sky_Paladin

BT · « **Reply #919 on:** October 19, 2014, 03:47:02 PM »

Quote from: PX on October 18, 2014, 03:39:23 PM

BT is the highest odds of being recruit scum. (He's the only possible choice out of those 3 :/)

Sky wasn't a bad outside choice at the time because some people had a townread on him (I did!) and no one pushed hard for his lynch IIRC? Scum didn't know what I'd do with the moonstone so they avoided targeting me/SB and targeted tier 2 townies instead (you, Sky - but I don't think it's you).

PX · « **Reply #920 on:** October 19, 2014, 07:01:10 PM »

Unvote
Vote Sky Palladium

Mitsuki · « **Reply #921 on:** October 19, 2014, 07:15:59 PM »

I've lost all motivation on this game, to be honest. I know I have to keep up with it though so I'm going to do stuff now.

Quote from: Sky_Paladin on October 19, 2014, 03:16:29 PM

Ill vote after I had a chance to read. I'm really interested in reading what Mitsuki said/did day 3 before/after Conq said he roleblocked anybody who targeted him, and Mitsuki said now she targeted him.

Conqueror roleblocked people on N4, not N3. I wasn't roleblocked.

Quote from: Sky_Paladin on October 19, 2014, 03:16:29 PM

Also before I forget, Mitsuki didn't claim in a town way.
Town way claim is : Hi I am this role/flavor, on night 1 I did xyz because of so-and-so, on night 2 I did abc because whatever. We saw this with Raikaria - we had to drag his fake night actions out of him (or maybe that was another game, I can't remember) and it's scum.

Mitsuki, why did you target PX night 5? Why did you target Conqueror night 3?

Because they were townreads and I thought they were likely to get killed. Thought it was obvious so I didn't clarify it.

Doing a quick read on Welcome to the NHK makes me think Rawr is town. He posted way less there and he didn't seem to have a train of thought behind his actions, also his posts were non-commital. Here he seems to be trying to be active and contributing, and he's actually posting reasoning.

I think Sky Paladin's case on me is scummy because he tries to pass stuff that has alternate (and more logical) explanations as something scummy without giving a reason on why it would be. To be specific, he says that I'm only roleblocked when I target PX but why would that mean we're buddies? Also PX saying I'm confirmed town, same question again.
Need to ISO him to make sure though.

and cut

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #922 on:** October 19, 2014, 07:32:11 PM »

I wouldn't think sky paladin is Scum based off his reasoning. He tried doing the same thing to lld last game did t he and he was town.

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #923 on:** October 19, 2014, 07:43:10 PM »

Also am I the only one still thinking cf7 is Scum?

CF7 · « **Reply #924 on:** October 19, 2014, 08:00:32 PM »

Spent the whole day playing tabletop games. Sorry. Also i am feeling tired. Again, sorry. Will post and vote when i am awake tomorrow.

Affinity · « **Reply #925 on:** October 19, 2014, 11:03:54 PM »

Everything is Anything

Sky_Paladin: BT, PX (2)

Not voting: Mitsuki, CF7, Sky_Paladin, rawr (4)

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch
28 hours remain

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #926 on:** October 19, 2014, 11:17:58 PM »

If either of you are town on me, that's gg, so please unvote since nobody has actually gone back to do wagon/interaction/crumb analysis yet and there's still a whole day left.
This is probably the main thing though - what is the case on me again? Exactly.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #927 on:** October 19, 2014, 11:37:02 PM »

I just noticed it's 4 to lynch instead of 3.

PX, why are you sheeping BT when you scum read him for the last half of the game?

PX · « **Reply #928 on:** October 20, 2014, 12:12:59 AM »

Well scum hasn't hammered yet so at least ONE of you must be the scums. Question is, which one.

PX · « **Reply #929 on:** October 20, 2014, 12:15:21 AM »

Unvote
Vote BT