Author Topic: NoTV 2 Mafia (Game Over, Scum and 3rd Party Win) (Read 98250 times)

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #870 on:** October 18, 2014, 06:13:43 AM »

isnt there 6 alive? are we being haunted by a spooky ghost?

Dr Rawr · « **Reply #871 on:** October 18, 2014, 06:44:33 AM »

anyways ignoring the opinions of cf7 and bt anyone think they arent scum?

BT · « **Reply #872 on:** October 18, 2014, 07:16:38 AM »

Kasen, VT.

D2 I was given a choice to pass the moonstone to someone or to not do so at all. None of the townie slots were safe from the possibility that I'd pass to them so they were a doc-evasion-esque gamble, and it was possible I was acting (knowing the stone's true purpose) thus not passing the stone to anyone so that's rolling the dice even harder. (I didn't know) Still safe to think they wouldn't recruit a weak slot, so CF7 is off-limits and NNR/PX (PX started getting active on D3) were pretty weak picks at the time, so I think it's Sky.

Final scum is trickier now and I'd have to binge read interactions to be sure of any of this.

Why did Conq leave? His wincon makes it sound like he's a survivor+.

Mitsuki · « **Reply #873 on:** October 18, 2014, 07:48:27 AM »

I'm Hong Meiling, odd-night jailor. Jailed CF7 N1, jailed Conqueror N3, jailed PX N5 but I was roleblocked.
One of the questions I asked Conqueror through the moonstone (1) was if he wanted to be protected (a) or use his role (b) on N5. You can see how this changes when first he replies (b) while he was claiming to be BP and then switches to saying it was a reaction test but tells me that (a).
The other question (2) was about wether or not to claim the odd night part but scum probably got the messages about the moonstone anyways...

I can confirm that I was given the option to not pass the moonstone.

I agree with BT that scum probably didn't recruit either CF7 or NNR, so at least one of them is town. PX is still a townread. I need to reread and update my thoughts.

CF7 · « **Reply #874 on:** October 18, 2014, 08:26:19 AM »

Well, personally, i think it's Sky+???

Mitsuki · « **Reply #875 on:** October 18, 2014, 09:14:30 AM »

Can someone tell me recent games where Rawr has been scum?

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #876 on:** October 18, 2014, 01:20:58 PM »

I am basically out for the first half of this day phase, when I get back ---

To do -
Check if SB really did leave crumbs so we can rule out/rule in some players.
Check Raikaria/Shadoweh interactions with other players, specifically CF7/BT since I think they're scum.
Check if Mitsuki's claim is actually possible re: Conqueror targeted by everybody + SB claimed roleblock.

Related to what PX said, I'm interested in checking which players were happy to vote for town on day 1 and 2 but kind of sort of couldn't be bothered to get around voting for basically confirmed scums on day 4 and day 5.

I am down with a mass claim. I am highly dubious of CF7/BT's claims and flavorclaims.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #877 on:** October 18, 2014, 01:29:02 PM »

Oh right, I forgot this x__X

I am Alice Margatroid. I'm just a common or garden variety vanilla town.

PX · « **Reply #878 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:28:03 PM »

Alright, Mitsuki's claim checks out. She is confirmed town at this point.

That said, the fact that she's still alive means that scum shouldn't have been able to spy on moonstone messages since they would have killed her for saying she could protect. Which makes the NKs even weirder so

Gonna need to spec on that later. Any of the other 4 could be scum

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #879 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:37:58 PM »

PX

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Alright, Mitsuki's claim checks out. She is confirmed town at this point.

The only way you could know this is if you have a night action that could have been blocked.

However, you claimed vanilla day 1.

GG eat rope?

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #880 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:39:09 PM »

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jailed PX N5 but I was roleblocked.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

PX · « **Reply #881 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:39:23 PM »

Okay, it's most likely between NNRawr, BT, and Sky Palladium. Out of those 3, BT is the highest odds of being recruit scum. (He's the only possible choice out of those 3 :/)

Cut: Wat?

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #882 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:40:30 PM »

Re: PX

Unless an interesting and all encompassing explanation comes forth, I think it's a 1 v 1 between you and Mitsuki since you both claim to be blocked night 5. And Mitsuki's block on you was blocked (allegedly).

PX · « **Reply #883 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:41:26 PM »

I was cross checking her claim with Conq's posts on D4, they pretty much confirm each other. Also

Vote Sky Paladin

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #884 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:41:42 PM »

To clarify, PX, you are claiming to be blocked/jailed, because the only way Mitsuki's claim could be 'checked out' is if you had an action that was prevented.

PX · « **Reply #885 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:42:34 PM »

I uhhhh what? ....

PX · « **Reply #886 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:42:59 PM »

Quote from: PX on October 18, 2014, 03:41:26 PM

I was cross checking her claim with Conq's posts on D4, they pretty much confirm each other. Also

Vote Sky Paladin

PX · « **Reply #887 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:43:37 PM »

Quote from: PX on October 18, 2014, 03:42:59 PM

Quote from: PX on October 18, 2014, 03:41:26 PM
I was cross checking her claim with Conq's posts on D4, they pretty much confirm each other. Also

Vote Sky Paladin

PX · « **Reply #888 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:46:58 PM »

Ballsy move I gotta say. Anyways, Mitsuki should be using her action offensively, but we know there's a roleblocker out there (or she's scum :|) so we need to take care of that first

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #889 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:47:54 PM »

PX, your response to "please explain your claim since it counterclaims Mitsuki" is to vote me in LYLO without explanation.

Well there's scum number 3.

Add to my to do list:
Check PX for interactions.

I'll let you guys chat about this while I sleep, if you can dig out scum #4 before I get up that'd be sweet.

cut:
What are you talking about.

PX · « **Reply #890 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:49:59 PM »

Because I never said I was blocked, or even have any abilities since I'm Vanilla town and have been since the game has started?

I'll look to see who the scum is between Sky and NNRawr

PX · « **Reply #891 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:51:27 PM »

Wait a second.
Is it MyLo or Pseudo-MyLo? Does this mean scum wins automatically if we lynch town regardless of roles that may or may not exist?

PX · « **Reply #892 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:51:50 PM »

Unvote
Vote No Lynch

PX · « **Reply #893 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:53:00 PM »

No wait I am retarded because Mitsuki can't act tonight
Unvote

PX · « **Reply #894 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:53:25 PM »

Which just proves her claim even more :/

PX · « **Reply #895 on:** October 18, 2014, 03:58:57 PM »

Wait she can't block either crapbaskets. Welp.

PX · « **Reply #896 on:** October 18, 2014, 04:08:02 PM »

I'm just about sold on CF7 town so far reading through Day 1.

PX · « **Reply #897 on:** October 18, 2014, 04:30:21 PM »

Wait, scum had a roleblock so they didn't care about a doctor gdi. I guess they can spy on moonstone messages and killed SB for implying a PR. Or did he just outright claim being a PR? W/e
Actually, screw it for now.
BT is like 99% converted scum, and Mitsuki is 100% going to die tonight. I'll continue reading and stuff after food but for now
Vote BT

CF7 · « **Reply #898 on:** October 18, 2014, 04:37:21 PM »

Hm... I am trying to make sense of the Mitsuki's claim.
I dunno things just do not add up. Or rather they're convenient. Since she claims she blocked people who can't confirm that they are blocked.
Conq never said that he was roleblocked on N3. I never received a message i was roleblocked. But i am a VT so it's probably okay since there was no action blocked. She also says that she was roleblocked this night. And that's not provable either.
I am not saying this is super damning per se, but it's kind of a fake claim reasonable for scum!roleblocker.

Also, i kinda do not want to discuss BT's likeliness convert status, since levels of WIFOM in that would be too high, and i don't have time for this at the moment. I would have converted PX or maybe Sky for example. For reasons.

CF7 · « **Reply #899 on:** October 18, 2014, 04:43:02 PM »

Hm... I need to reread the whole game trying to find something i need and it's going to be a pain it seems.