##Unvote##Vote PXI've been fairly suspicious of PX for a while,
as seen here, but the way he has recently been conducting himself just certifies him as terrible in my mind. I absolutely resent his claim that we should not look at the people on the Lambda wagon too closely, because
looking at the only flipped townie wagon is one of the most effective ways to hunt scum at this point in the game. Given that PX was on the wagon himself, his attempt to drive us away from Lambda is just mind-blowingly infuriating to me.
But even aside from that, just about everything in
PX's #355 irks me a lot, especially in hindsight now that he has placed his vote on capt.h. He claims to be torn between voting me and Dormio, and yet
HE BARELY EVEN HAS A CASE ON EITHER OF US. What's worse is that he claims that I look like the better of the two when he JUST SAID that Dormio isn't even looking like scum to him.
These were the people PX was considering voting, folks. Both of them looked like town to him. I don't even know how this could possibly be classified as derp, even if it's coming from PX. This is a blatantly obvious example of scum not knowing how to prioritize their cases or even make any. He's still basically borrowing from others in that post, too, as he's just considering the most common options rather than making his own case. But what bugs me even more is the way he later jumps on capt.h by completely dropping his comments on Dormio and me. It's like he was looking for wagons to jump on but just... gave up suddenly. I really can't explain why town
or scum could do this, actually, but my personal hypothesis is that it was an indirect response to the amount of ire his post about me and Dormio gained - he did not address the complaints directly (argh why has PX not been defending himself at all this game), and is instead pretending they do not exist. Plus, jumping on a wagon unlikely to draw attention makes him less likely to be judged the following day - his initial jump on Lambda could possibly be seen as an attempt to do something like this as well, if he did not anticipate it taking off. I would personally summarize a majority of his recent actions as a textbook example of scum flailing.
On the other hand... I'm just going to be completely srs mode here and say that I really can not see Dormio as scum at this point. Maybe the Durrrmio vibes are finally setting in, I don't know. But I think the way he continues to press his UK case and conspiracy theories in the face of constant rebuttals and other posters telling him how weak the case is when the UK wagon
barely even has a chance of taking off strongly shows that he is a genuine townie with a genuine opinion. Just, a terrible opinion that he is tunneling on. <_< I still maintain that his earlygame is awful, but... I don't feel comfortable attacking him anymore. Still, though,
I want to know what he thinks of people who aren't UK. The tunneling is absolutely annoying even if I think it looks like townie tunneling because it means he's not really seeming to consider any other opinions to a notable extent. Zak has a similiar problem in my opinion (though his version of the UK case is less completely insane), and I want to know which of the current wagons he would most likely want to pass through as the day's lynch as well.
I'm finding that Chaore's content has been rubbing me the wrong way a lot. Not only was his
initial stance on the Lambda wagon somewhat waffly, but it was basically set up so he would never have to commit to a true stance on her actions. Since she was unlikely to show up at the end of the day, he basically put himself in a situation where he could coast by having a "I find her actions bad, but not really scummy" opinion because she was never going to return to defend herself. Even
the way he started off D2 makes him seem waffly regarding the Lambda wagon. So yeah, I'm very nervous about Chaore's nebulous stance on the Lambda wagon. If PX is indeed scum like I believe he is, I think I would most likely want Chaore lynched next, because even though Chaore has thrown out the possibility of PX scum, he has chosen to keep his vote on Dormio multiple despite acting as if PX is just as bad. Which isn't too awful in itself, but Chaore hasn't really come off as very commited to his PX stance in my opinion. The way he goes "I'm willing to see him die" after a few minor attacks makes it seem like he's trying to push PX and cheer on the people chasing that wagon, but not actually have to full-on consider the PX case a priority. I don't know if I'm making sense here.
capt.h still bugs me as well, his jump on Dormio seems notably weak to me because of the way he presented it. The way he wanted Dormio to give more recent stances makes me assume that capt.h was only pressing him, but capt.h still commited to his Dormio attack like it was a serious vote. It also seems odd that capt.h would consider UK suspicious, given that he considers Dormio to be "fairly likely to be scum". Dormio has been on UK for a majority of the game, and it has been discussed several times that hard bussing is not an effective strategy in this game, so the way capt.h went about his UK suspicion really makes me wonder if he was just throwing out suspicion on a townie he could potentially jump on later. I also felt that capt.h's Lambda jump from D1 was inconsistant due to the way capt.h's previous post came out, and I believe I already explained that in my earlier wallpost today. The fact that PX is voting capt.h right now doesn't really deter me because PX's capt.h vote looks like a last-ditch attempt at getting out a case and I could easily see scum!PX attempting to get out some last-minute Dormio-tier insane bussing, or at least when it's obvious that a capt.h lynch wouldn't even take off at this point. It's certainly not as unlikely as a hard bus, anyway, since PX hasn't really attacked capt.h up until this point as far as I know.
It should be noted that the way the two people who irk me the most aside from PX are voting Dormio is another factor in me choosing to lay off of Dormio for now.
Okay, really, I don't know why so many people are interpretting my earlygame question as trying to force a dichotomy. As far as I'm aware, building early cases on people is how we gain more opinions to consider and possibly even pick scum out of, which helps us evolve what stage of the game we are currently in. If everybody was just going to attack Bardiche alone, we would have had trouble analyzing opinions due to the lack of solid cases aside from "Bard may have possibly shot a townie!!", which would have given us a rockier start. It doesn't help that those cases would have been completely invalid after the truth behind Bard's shot was revealed. From my point of view, I was just trying to help the earlygame move along and potentially give everyone more content to work with. I didn't think it would have excluded the 7 players who didn't post, because at the time I was not under the impression they were avoiding the game due to its current stage, and I figured that their opinions when they arrived could have still been potentially telling and we could have updated our own stances/votes as they appeared. Because that's how the earlygame
usually seems to play out with people who don't post until ~24 hours into the game. In short, I had pro-town intent and did not consider the possibility that I could be forcing a dichotomy, because I didn't even see the earlygame that way. And even if I was, I would have potentially been directing town to a dichotomy including myself, which wouldn't been a particularly effective tactic of scummy obfuscation at that point because I could have drawn unnecessary attention to myself. So ehhh.
Also, it's seeming to me that UK is only accusing me of scum because she wants to think I'm scum rather than that she actually does, which seems really odd to me because I've never actually seen a player act like they want to suspect another player before. I don't know. @_@ I get weird vibes from her attacks on me.
One more thing. I'm Chiyuri Kitashirakawa, Vanilla Townie and human. I'm not sure how to explain the flavor in my PM without essentially paraphrasing it and getting modkilled, but given that I am not really familiar with PC-98 Touhou at all, its relation to Chiyuri is completely lost on me anyway. Pre-emptive claim, maybe, but I haven't been the most active poster this game due to generally feeling lackadaisical (plus I'm simultaneously tired and irritated with the game in general right now so I'm probably not going to be too active for the rest of the day, if I go to bed early like I plan to then I'll try to set my alarm for before deadline though), and several people (PX, Kiro, UK) are currently in a position where they could probably slip onto my wagon and kill me in an end-of-day lynch rush if they wanted to, which means that I don't particularly consider myself safe despite only having two votes. Maybe I'm just paranoid. So there you have it.
