Touhou Bitching/Whining Thread mk. 7

[ふねん1]

What's with Yamame's opener on Lunatic ? WHY IS IT IMPOSSIBLE ?

I beg to differ.

[Alice★f]

(In what situation would that be appropriate?)

In page 23/24 of a bitching and whining thread. :V
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On topic: Sanae on Luantic. fffffff
As if it wasn't clippy enough in Hard...

Of course, she's easy. (The game is too easy for a Lunatic, IMO) but it is annoying to try to dodge, and get killed by something you were never expecting in the first place /English , AND stock full of bombs.

[nintendonut888]

I captured Tele-mesmerism.

But I got hit by Reisen's third non-spell.

I am not certain how I'm supposed to feel.

I also remembered what I heard about Tewi. Apparently her attack is static relative to her position. Those Japanese scorerunners apparently have a safespot in the lower right-hand corner memorized.

EDIT: Apparently.

[Silent Harmony]

EoSD Hard Practice. I enter Scarlet Gensokyo 0/0.

Get her to about 10-15% life.

WALLED!

Randomness: Fun until it's not.

[Zengeku]

I beg to differ.

I beg to differ from your begging to differ.

Are you consistent on that? I can't seem to make it work. I might not be doing it right though. If you are to put it into words what is it exactly that you do? What i see in your replay is the red bullets not getting far enough down the screen and you stream along the bottom. It doesn't always line the bullets up for you like that though. I was

[ふねん1]

I beg to differ from your begging to differ.

Are you consistent on that? I can't seem to make it work. I might not be doing it right though. If you are to put it into words what is it exactly that you do? What i see in your replay is the red bullets not getting far enough down the screen and you stream along the bottom. It doesn't always line the bullets up for you like that though. I was

Hard to judge exactly, since I don't play that level much anymore, but I've gotten it most of the time. I'm not sure I can explain every detail about the attack, but the best I can say is that by making the wide move before the second set of red bullets begins to move, said red bullets won't be in a position to wall you (not as well as if you barely moved, anyway). Again, don't quote me on that - it's been a while since I've tried her opener. All I know is that method gives me at least partial success, whatever way it's supposed to work, so I still use it.

[theshirn]

Things I need to stop sucking at:
Keine
ALL OF STAGE 4

[Megayanma]

Aya on MoF...just...ugh...

I got so close to a 1cc of MoF on Normal, had like 6 lives by stage 3.  Played through stage 3, and I think I died once.

Okay, I think, I'm gonna show that Tengu who's boss.  :V

Next thing I know, I lose a life/bomb on all of her cards, die with 2 SECONDS left on Illusionary Dominance, and somehow lose THREE FRIGGIN' LIVES on her last card.  ;_;

Stage 5 passes without a fluke.

I enter stage 6 with I think 1 life.  I die on KANAKO'S SECOND TO LAST CARD.   The end of my 1cc.

[チソウ タイゼン]

Aya on MoF...just...ugh...

I got so close to a 1cc of MoF on Normal, had like 6 lives by stage 3.  Played through stage 3, and I think I died once.

Okay, I think, I'm gonna show that Tengu who's boss.  :V

Next thing I know, I lose a life/bomb on all of her cards, die with 2 SECONDS left on Illusionary Dominance, and somehow lose THREE FRIGGIN' LIVES on her last card.  ;_;

Stage 5 passes without a fluke.

I enter stage 6 with I think 1 life.  I die on KANAKO'S SECOND TO LAST CARD.   The end of my 1cc.

Optimize your Stage 1-3 strategy.
Extra lives are based on score, and iirc you get lives at 20, 40, 80, 150, and 300 million points. You also get lives after Midbosses 3 and 5.
Let me start with saying that you will not reach 300 million points unless you NDNB the first five stages all at the while maximizing your Faith and keeping it's decline at a minimum. Doing that you should be able to amass at the very least 240,000 FP.
When fighting I. Dominance, fly up to the median of the screen and then slowly go down while dodging the streams.
And if I remember correctly Kanako's penultimate card is the one with blue streams and bullets everywhere heading in your direction. Move in a circle and at the top of which try not to hit Kanako. If you feel that you may, (death?)bomb.
I cleared MOF on Normal but then again I entered Stage 6 with like 6 lives :3

Aya's one card, with the fast blue bullets and the random falling? HATE

[Megayanma]

Optimize your Stage 1-3 strategy.
Extra lives are based on score, and iirc you get lives at 20, 40, 80, 150, and 300 million points. You also get lives after Midbosses 3 and 5.
Let me start with saying that you will not reach 300 million points unless you NDNB the first five stages all at the while maximizing your Faith and keeping it's decline at a minimum. Doing that you should be able to amass at the very least 240,000 FP.
When fighting I. Dominance, fly up to the median of the screen and then slowly go down while dodging the streams.
And if I remember correctly Kanako's penultimate card is the one with blue streams and bullets everywhere heading in your direction. Move in a circle and at the top of which try not to hit Kanako. If you feel that you may, (death?)bomb.
I cleared MOF on Normal but then again I entered Stage 6 with like 6 lives :3

Aya's one card, with the fast blue bullets and the random falling? HATE

I neglected to mention I'm using Reimu A.  I feel that using that shot type in particular minimizes my Faith loss.  Thanks for the tips; I guess I'd better retry. 

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

There is no extend at 300,000,000. At least I don't remember there being an extend at 300,000,000.

Not using bombs in MoF is terrible for scoring. You can bomb final boss nonspells for score, and there are stage parts where you gain faith for bombing despite the 3,000 Faith penalty. And if you deathbomb, you don't even lose the 3,000 Faith.

 It's probably the easiest game in the series to play for score. SA has suiciding and bombspamming for graze. UFO is UFO. PCB has borders, bombing for cherry, suicides. EoSD and before have bombing and suiciding for score purposes. IN requires you to know every safespot in the game and milk graze and time.

[KrackoCloud]

I've 1cc'd MoF normal! That's the last normal Windows shooter I had to beat, so yeah!
Nowww. Does that mean I move on to Hard? D;

[Iryan]

I've 1cc'd MoF normal! That's the last normal Windows shooter I had to beat, so yeah!
Nowww. Does that mean I move on to Hard? D;

Extras are, in general, easier than hard 1ccs, so if you haven't beaten those, they would be the next logical step to make.

[Alice★f]

Extras are, in general, easier than hard 1ccs, so if you haven't beaten those, they would be the next logical step to make.

Exempt UFO Extra stage portion ha ha, old chap!

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Exempt UFO Extra stage portion ha ha, old chap!

But in exchange, Nue is easier than Normal mode. Unless you have one of the shottypes that can't kill UFOs worth anything. SanaeA, how the hell do you do RED UFOs and Blue UFOs with her. I can't even get far in the fight like MarisA and SanaeB who I beat it with because these things are fucking impossible with SanaeA and probably a few others.

[Arcengal]

I've had a UN Owen remix stuck in my head ALL DAY and I can't find the specific remix on Youtube. X(

Edit: Found it.

[Alice★f]

But in exchange, Nue is easier than Normal mode. Unless you have one of the shottypes that can't kill UFOs worth anything. SanaeA, how the hell do you do RED UFOs and Blue UFOs with her. I can't even get far in the fight like MarisA and SanaeB who I beat it with because these things are fucking impossible with SanaeA and probably a few others.

Hmm, I wouldn't know. I've been able to play as Reimu B (Or A, I'm not sure) and I always get kicked by the stage portion. Nue herself isn't that bad.

I would have this Extra beat if I could practice the spell cards without having to be at the mercy of Kogasa and the stage. =/

[KrackoCloud]

I just realized this is in the wrong thread. It should be in the accomplishment thread.  Oops.
Buuuut it looks like this has sparked a nice little conversation, so whatever.

Extras? I suppose they are somewhat easy, but I die too quickly, and rarely get past the midboss. I suppose I need to memorize the stages then.

[Alice★f]

I just realized this is in the wrong thread. It should be in the accomplishment thread.  Oops.
Buuuut it looks like this has sparked a nice little conversation, so whatever.

Extras? I suppose they are somewhat easy, but I die too quickly, and rarely get past the midboss. I suppose I need to memorize the stages then.

Ha! I didn't even notice that 
Yeah, IMO, and most people seem to agree on this as well: Extra stages are more about memorization than they are skill. That's how I did PCB's Extra.

That said, perfecting Extra for me is way too tedious unless I had something like savestates to be able to go back and forth spellcards.

[GuyonFire]

Dear UFO Stage 5:

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

The stage is bullshit, the boss is bullshit, and if I could just get this stage done RIGHT I could 1cc the game and move on with my life.  But no, I have to use up anywhere from 4-6 lives and even more bombs to clear it.  I hate you, stage 5.  I'm filing for divorce.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

If you're complaining about anything before Nazrin outside of the orb spam, it's just memorization.

PostNazrin without spread, what the hell Zun.

Shou sucks and is the reason I haven't cleared Hard. Byakuren to a lesser extent.

[Alice★f]

If you're complaining about anything before Nazrin outside of the orb spam, it's just memorization.

  the boss is bullshit
 

Vajra oh hell no

Piece of shit laser runs in for the kill and the Reimu can't keep up with the laser holy shit I hate that thing

Don't even start with curvy lasers because those things are easily dealt with a bomb. First spell is a piece of shit.

/raeg

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I've captured every attack Shou has on Hard before, but I can't get a decent fight against her in an actual run.

I can usually do the opener, but I sometimes bomb. bomb/death, bomb/death, capturable usually, She rams into after I deplete her health from the safespot or I die to her ramming into me during the safespot or I stay down and die/bomb. Bomb/die, Bomb/die

How can anyone find this boss to be fun. Give me SoEW Marisa, Yuka, Yumeko, Sakuya, Youmu, Reisen, Sanae, or Orin any day. They are all much better stage 5(4 for Marisa) bosses than Shou is.

[Arcengal]

I've actually more or less got Shou's non-spells consistant now, which is terrifying in itself.

Now if I could get a better cap rate on RTG than 4/85 then it'd be a good start. I treat her second as a survival card, autobomb Vajra and am getting better at Complete Clarification.

[チソウ タイゼン]

There is no extend at 300,000,000. At least I don't remember there being an extend at 300,000,000.

Not using bombs in MoF is terrible for scoring. You can bomb final boss nonspells for score, and there are stage parts where you gain faith for bombing despite the 3,000 Faith penalty. And if you deathbomb, you don't even lose the 3,000 Faith.

 It's probably the easiest game in the series to play for score. SA has suiciding and bombspamming for graze. UFO is UFO. PCB has borders, bombing for cherry, suicides. EoSD and before have bombing and suiciding for score purposes. IN requires you to know every safespot in the game and milk graze and time.

I distinctly remember a 300M extend. Unless it's Easy-exclusive
My easy score is 342M while my normal score is like 210.
I remember it because, well... I was failing hard at Kanako once.
On my last life...

GET SPELL CARD BONUS!
16,400,000

EXTEND!!

[Choses]

FUCK YOU REMILIA.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

I got to her last nonspell in my Lunatic 1cc attemp, then I died because it's shit.
fffffffffffffffff doing this with default lives is insane. I think I'm just going to do it with max lives even if it's lame.

[Arcengal]

I distinctly remember a 300M extend. Unless it's Easy-exclusive

Just did an Easy 1cc to confirm and there's no 300m extend.
Also, Mountain of Faith Easy is the. most. irritating. card. ever.

[チソウ タイゼン]

Just did an Easy 1cc to confirm and there's no 300m extend.
Also, Mountain of Faith Easy is the. most. irritating. card. ever.

Oh, damn. I wonder where I got that from :<
I could have sworn...

[The Greatest Dog]

SanaeA, how the hell do you do RED UFOs and Blue UFOs with her. I can't even get far in the fight like MarisA and SanaeB who I beat it with because these things are fucking impossible with SanaeA and probably a few others.

Dude, Red UFO is piss easy no matter what shot you're using. Blue UFO's is only marginally harder if you're using Reimu A or Sanae A. Maybe Marisa B, too.

Buuut~ WHY THE HELL AM I TRYING TO 1CC UFO HARD WITH REIMU B? SCREW YOU SHOU AND YOUR FREAKING RADIANT TREASURE.

[Rook]

so I played SA with Marisa/Alice, getting somewhere for the first time

interesting shot type, probably slightly underpowered but I have no complaints about it

what I would like to bitch about is satori.  I don't recollect any of those spells, and I just 1cced PCB Lunatic >:(

I kept waiting for, like, "recollection: that fucking noncard where the red arrows come down and then the blue arrows come down slightly later so that you don't have time to sightread them"