Touhou Bitching/Whining Thread mk. 7

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

4 more 1DNB attempts at 80% Reflowering.


Also, circling around Yuyuko during Demon World might not have been such a good idea, but I wanted to try a different idea since doing it the normal way makes it just lame walling. I'm sure it's possible to do it like that, but not for me.

[Udongein]

..Well. I think this run has convinced me to either A) not use a controller for the shmups or B) relearn everything with said controller.

Tried IN Extra with Border Team with the controller.
Game over on Possessed by Phoenix. Granted, it's PbP, but still, I usually almost always clear it. I'm not exactly mad, just in a state of "...huh."
Oh yeah, 2 spellcard bonuses. Neither of them were Xu-Fu's Dimension because I forgot my controller layout and bombed at the very beginning of the card.

Replay for the bored.

[nintendonut888]

Ha ha old chap! I gave that there eastern church caretaker what's for!

...Bah ha ha ha. *waves hand at Jaimers* I've given up on trying to keep up with you guys.

[Zengeku]

Also note the "perfect" at the replay archive.
And technically it was actually NDNB.  BV

That damned last spell. The only reason i wouldn't even bother with it. Achieving NDNB should be pretty easy though. Nothing Reimu has is very hard anyway. Except for last spell.

[LHCling]

Oh hey, first try indeed.  :3

4A

Border Team

Technically illegitimate by way of PIME TARADOX  :V
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Donut was actually doing the same.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU'LL CREATE  A (ry

...Bah ha ha ha. *waves hand at Jaimers* I've given up on trying to keep up with you guys.

Don't tell me you've forgotten the words of FAV already  :3

[Krimmydoodle]

Technically illegitimate by way of PIME TARADOX  :V
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Donut was actually doing the same.

I did actually start a Border Team run, realized said paradox, stopped, changed to Scarlet Team, then remembered I don't like Scarlet Team (more due to inexperience with their shot than anything else) and stopped entirely.

I'm out of practice, so I probably wouldn't have done all that well anyway.

[nintendonut888]

I do use Border team for stage 4a actually. The game not having intermissions and immediately starting the second half of the stage after her second spell card is annoying. X(

[Alice★f]

SA is now easy with Reimu A.

But can anyone tell me why I suck so bad with Marisa A?

When you die, the loss is brutal. Not only do you lose a life, but you lose 8 bombs (depending on power) and a fifth of an extend.

[?q]

SA is now easy with Reimu A.

But can anyone tell me why I suck so bad with Marisa A?

When you die, the loss is brutal. Not only do you lose a life, but you lose 8 bombs (depending on power) and a fifth of an extend.

When you die in SA, you get something like 2.20 Power back.  But 2.20 Power for MarisA is a lot less than 2.20 Power for any other shot type, so you stay in the hole.

[An Odd Sea Slug]

Failed a No Deaths PCB Stage 6 run on 80% Reflowering due to a completely bullshit clipdeath.

Story of my life (except when my lives start dropping the hell off courtesy of either the Prismrivers or Youmu.

[Serela]

When you die in SA, you get something like 2.20 Power back.  But 2.20 Power for MarisA is a lot less than 2.20 Power for any other shot type, so you stay in the hole.

MarisA drops more power for you. Comparative to the power you'd get from a different shot in the same situation, it's pretty much the same.

MarisA is a really great shot type, as long as you don't try to unfocus shot and suicide. Focused far away is still stronger then some of the other shots, and she has one of the GOOD bombs.

[LHCling]

Drops more, but it's not enough. For instance, when you die with 8.00, you only get 7.00 back. Die at 7.xx and you get 6.xx back, etc. :3c Anything 3 and below only gives you back 3. 3/8.

[チソウ タイゼン]

MarisA's power gauge is out of twelve... Dropping three yeilds 0.25 power.. I think..

[ふねん1]

MarisA's power gauge is out of twelve... Dropping three yeilds 0.25 power.. I think..

It's 8 for MarisaA. I can't give much more info about what she drops though, since I never play as her.

[Alice★f]

It's 8 for MarisaA. I can't give much more info about what she drops though, since I never play as her.

Played SA Marisa A:

Didn't even beat Stage 5 Normal, and I can't deathbomb.

It seems like shot power is greater when you shoot unfocused.  :/
That's probably causing me to die a lot since I try to play unfocused at Marisa's ridiculous speed.

Played SA Reimu A:

1cc Normal no deaths.

----> Lunatic Stage 1,2,3 no deaths.

WTF. Do you think it's worth unlocking Extra with that shot type? If not then I'll just set it aside for later.

[ふねん1]

Played SA Marisa A:

Didn't even beat Stage 5 Normal, and I can't deathbomb.

It seems like shot power is greater when you shoot unfocused.  :/
That's probably causing me to die a lot since I try to play unfocused at Marisa's ridiculous speed.

Yeah, it's kind of odd how her shot is arranged (focused vs. unfocused). I would say she's better played like a scorerunning Youmu solo from IN - when you're not moving, stay unfocused, and when you do need to move, tap focus just long enough to get you where you need to go (perhaps watching kamiG's IN replay would help for visualizing it).

Don't ask me why ZUN made her unfocused shot the stronger one, I have no idea. She would definitely be a better shottype if her shots were reversed - MarisaA unfocused is almost as powerful as ReimuA focused.

[Zengeku]

FUCK! Shou has been violating me. Destroying me on every damned attempt. I think i managed to get 1 RTG capture and 1 CC capture + 2 Aura of Light captures out of 8 Shou runs. Every thing went so horrible that suicide is an enticing thought.

Then went to play Orin just to check if it was my handling of Shou that was bad or just me having a bad day. Thankfully it was the later. Almost gameovered on Orin. Would have if the final card of hers wasn't so easy.

Still, isn't it frustrating when you get pwned by something despite usually being much better at it?

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Tried out UFO Lunatic  just to see how bad it is.

What the hell is this? The first 2 stages make Lunatic Kaguya, Lunatic Utsuho, Lunatic Eirin, , Lunatic Kanako, Lunatic Orin, and several other Lunatic bosses I'm not going to name look like Easy-Normal mode depending on the boss.

[Formless God]

Utsuho, Kanako and Orin are easysauce; Kaguya and Eirin are bombspammable. You must also realize that UFO is not your average Touhou game, and it's still more fair

Spoiler:

and fun

than most shmups in existence.
The first two stages ? More like Stage 2 as the entire Stage 1 is iisi.

[Heartbeam]

The next thread needs 'sadface' in the title.



Of course it wasn't a true perfect.  There was one border break against Lunasa's second noncard and one against the stage six spam.  Then Youmu's last spell was sacrificed (blew the border on the first wave)  in favor of actually having a border available for stage six at the right moment.  Should have planned during endstage Youmu's second noncard, and thanks to .ASP for convincing me to let go of my spell capture greed.  It'll be done right eventually.

[Ecthel]

I just game overed a UFO no-focus to Flying Fantastica.
I just game overed a UFO no-focus to Flying Fantastica.
I just game overed a UFO no-focus to Flying Fantastica.

 

[Bananamatic]

more fair

Spoiler:

and fun

than most shmups in existence

:V

[Formless God]

DDP's second loop is worse. I dare you say otherwise :V

[Sapz]

DDP's second loop is worse. I dare you say otherwise :V

Sure, it's harder, but if you think it's unfair

Spoiler:

or unfun

at all you're doing something wrong. :V

(For the record, I'm not saying UFO Lunatic is unfair either, but you get the point.)

[Formless God]

Hibachi alone makes it fun, but I don't know how to do S6 without bombing every time my shield wears off :ohdear:

[Sapz]

I've managed a couple of bits, but for the most part neither have I, it's terrifying. :ohdear: I must get back to DDP at some point~

[Alice★f]

INSECURITY

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=8750

I know I can 1cc SA on Hard, but I panic bomb. I am very insecure and I know many of these bombs could have been avoided. I don't use Reimu A's ability and I die with full power.

Take a look: stage 5 deaths are utterly ridiculous.

With a little luck and skill, SA Hard is doable, but what's the point if I don't feel I can do it?

[ふねん1]

Another perfect run attempt ruined on Subterranean Sun, because I can't fucking read. Why must I keep making the stupidest mistakes at random times?

[Zengeku]

Tried out UFO Lunatic  just to see how bad it is.

What the hell is this? The first 2 stages make Lunatic Kaguya, Lunatic Utsuho, Lunatic Eirin, , Lunatic Kanako, Lunatic Orin, and several other Lunatic bosses I'm not going to name look like Easy-Normal mode depending on the boss.

Stage 1 is easy but Stage 2 and 3 sucks. Perfecting Lunatic Orin (And Youmu as well) is easier than Lunatic Kogasa and Ichirins stage portion screams bomb/life spam unless you memorize every single part of it.

You must also realize that UFO is not your average Touhou game

No. UFO is not worthy of being called Touhou. Its an unfinished flawed pebble in a bucket of diamonds. Why are there so many lasers in the game? Why is the Stage 2 boss harder than pretty much any Stage 4 and 5 boss before her? Why is resource gathering and scoring not seperate systems?

[Formless God]

IN is not worthy of being called Touhou.

Fixed.
Different =/= flawed. Since when do people complain instead of actually trying to get better ? It's pathetic. I got a near consistent rate on DR and that's all thanks to practice practice practice and taking it easy.

Why are there so many lasers in the game?

So many ? Only Shou has them. Nuelaser can't even hit you.

Spoiler:

Also, Kamui says hi.

Why is resource gathering and scoring not seperate systems?

I personally like being able to freely alternate my play style during a run. I chain reds for lives, I chain blues for score, I chain COLORS for power. And I can do it whenever I want.