Touhou Bitching/Whining Thread mk. 7

[?q]

Ghost Team would fill that role much better.  Screen-filling youkai shot that annihilates stages + the best card-killing bomb in the game.  Scarlet Team's bombs are way too weak for good low-end survival play.

Why do you want a card-killing bomb when you have a better card-killing shot?

I'll grant that both of the Scarlet Team's bombs are virtually useless though.  I'm curious as to which situations Sakuya's bombs are good for, since they seem to fail on any attack that uses familiars (basically all of them).

[Seian Verian]

Huh. It's amazing how much I fail on EoSD Lunatic. The run directly before, I'm playing on Hard and get all the way to Scarlet Meister. But  suddenly, next run, since I'm doing Lunatic. I enter stage 4 with three lives, get an Extend on the way, and suddenly game over on the first Non-Directional Laser.

[Jaimers]

1DNB "Scarlet Gensokyo" timeout.

Died at 10 seconds left.

[Silent Harmony]

Stage 4 PCB-N: ended 4/1.

Seriously, between Prismrivers and Patchy I curse Zun's S4 programming.

(To add insult to injury, that was apparently a top-score run.) :colonveeplusalpha:


FUCKING DIED AS THEY WERE EXPLODING FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WanderingKnight]

Just came back from a trip to Japan, played the fuck out of Mushihime-sama Futari BL in an arcade in Tokyo (I was stuck for four days due to the ash cloud in Europe so I had some time off the whole exploring thing to do it) and I tried to 1cc PCB Normal last night and was like FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I also finished 3/1 in a stage 6 normal run, fml

It's amazing how much your skills dull when you get used to playing a really different shooter.

[LHCling]

In this community?  Naw, that's crazy talk.

...you're right, that is crazy talk; what on Earth was I thinking?

I'm curious as to which situations Sakuya's bombs are good for, since they seem to fail on any attack that uses familiars (basically all of them).

And Sakuya's bomb would succeed against anything that doesn't have familiars. Which... is very little.

Conclusion: Therefore, the Scarlet Team is the EXTREME Team; awesome scoring, awesome standard shots (when you're playing right), awesome SPEED and more often than not punishes you for deathbombing.

Spoiler:

Do take this with a barrel of salt

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щ(ﾟДﾟщ)

_{At least I got a 136k shot.}

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Don't you get punished for deathbombing for all teams? Or does that only apply to Last Spell deathbombing?

The only time I did a 1 bomb deathbomb with more than one bomb in stock, I wasn't paying attention.

[theshirn]

punished as in "CONGRATS YOU HAVE WASTED TWO BOMBS

WELL DONE"

[LHCling]

Don't you get punished for deathbombing for all teams? Or does that only apply to Last Spell deathbombing?

Be very, very mindful of what happens when you deathbomb with the Scarlet Team when focused (which is, statistically speaking, the point in time where the most deathbombs occur).
Answer:

Spoiler:

You get Sakuya's bomb

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Compare:

Spoiler:

Border Team gets Reimu's GODLY bomb, Magic Team gets マスターーーースパーーーク！！！, and the Ghost Team gets Youmu's all-rounder full-screen (essentially) bomb

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[Chaotic Phoenixma]

Ya, if you get a Yukari or Alice deathbomb, it's pretty bad too, but that'll only happen if you unfocus to try to get a bomb off but get hit first. Yuyuko's Last Spell isn't that bad either.

[MysTeariousYukari]

Bai-tan, what do the boxes say?

[LHCling]

Tear:

Spoiler:

I forgot that not everybody has Japanese on their compy. It reads "Masteeeeeerrrrrrr Spaaaaark!!!

[theshirn]

Technically, it reads:

Spoiler:

MASUTAAAAAAAAAAAAAASUPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKU!!!

[MysTeariousYukari]

Bai-tan

Spoiler:

Why are we using Spoiler tags for D-bombs?

[LHCling]

Question and Answer. You hide the answer to make people think before guessing  :V

Also, 7-2. While you might think it's an accomplishment seeing as I managed to snatch first, the problem here is that I only have a general idea on how to score. In other words, I'm clueless like UKT.

EDIT: Ok... 7-1's even worse than 7-2 in this sense.

[Reddyne]

UFO, stages 1-4: Activate bullet time to move like 'they' do! Dodge like you have never dodged before, capturing nearly every card in the process!

Stages 5-6. Bullet time exhausted. Initiate DERP mode. Crash into lone bullets and forget how to bomb entirely!

[Zengeku]

Had two consecutive runs against RTG. Died three times on one of them and two times on the other. FUCK!!! I'm usually pretty good at this card. One death is acceptable because it might happen due to some flawed reading but dying three times is horrible.

I can't capture VoPB for shit either. And CC is proving impossible. But i did capture Greatest Treasure two times... well...

UFO, stages 1-4: Activate bullet time to move like 'they' do! Dodge like you have never dodged before, capturing nearly every card in the process!

Stages 5-6. Bullet time exhausted. Initiate DERP mode. Crash into lone bullets and forget how to bomb entirely!

Yeah pretty much. On lunatic that is.

[Helion]

In this community?

It's more likely than you thi- *shot*

PCB: 2 runs, 1 hard, 1 lunatic. Lunatic ends at Prismrivers, Hard ended at Alice due to downward spiral. WHAT

[LHCling]

Ok, either emulating playstyle isn't the right way to go about this, or, I could just be getting unlucky and having the "tower" build in the corner where it won't tip towards the center when I want it to (which is basically when I go and take a scoring shot).

Seriously, my progression of shots was like:
230k -> 150k -> 150k -> 150k -> 170k -> 180k -> 160k [endscore 1.2mil]

Whereas the theoretical should be something like:
250k -> 220-330k -> 220-330k -> (ry [endscore 1.6mil++]
Alright, I'm through with that. Let me now run my head a few billion times against 7-7 and see if I can achieve anything remotely close to 1 million. Not to mention I still have to numbercrunch 7-1 properly.

EDIT: ...it appears that my natural anti-affinity for various attack patterns such as the one in 7-7 (Crisscross) is starting to come back and bite me. Ironically enough, I can do something like "LSI" without messing up at all.

EDIT 2: Alright, 7-7 is starting to become barely manageable at that range. Might as well study a replay...

EDIT 3: Getting the hang of it. Granted, the Best Shot there is a bit of a fluke but I know one very simple method to avoid getting hit right there.


After those, I'll be done for the month.

[Chaotic Phoenixma]

I could understand being killed once, that's expected in PoFV.

Quit killing me 2 or 3 times. Be a good girl already and just kill me once, or preferably not at all, then die. This applies to everything past stage 6.

[Jaimers]

Goddamn my reflexes, seriously.

Ended 2/3 this time so I'm calling this a no bombs 1cc.
30 cards captured.

[Jaimers]

lol double post.

Just tried doing a no bombs UFO lunatic 1cc and made it all the way to Shou on my first attempt.
I could have pulled this off if I hadn't died SIX times on stage 5.

Seriously, the margin for error is enormous because of the ridiculous amount of lives the game throws at you.

[Jelly Belly]

Perfect Cherry Blossom Phantasm.
I'm just flying around pretending that I know what I'm doing and it works. Sometimes.

[ravaens]

For life of me I can't do keeping myself alive and keeping track of all those floating UFOs on the screen at the same time. Can't get through stage 3 despite of 10 FREAKING CONTINUES Gaaaah

[theshirn]

GODDAMN INPUT LAG

the better I get, the more I notice it

I died pushing the bomb button five times, nine bombs gone

how the hell am I supposed to 1cc EoSD Lunatic

(and I can't figure out how to get the vsync patch to work)

[Alice★f]

(and I can't figure out how to get the vsync patch to work)

Get vpatch.ini, vpatch.exe, and the respective vpatch_thXX.dll file.

Dump them all into the Touhou folder. (Same folder where the game .exe is at.)

For EoSD, rename the game exe to the original name, which is: 東方紅魔郷
(If you want to play in English, just rename the English .exe to that.)

[theshirn]

Have done precisely this before.  No success.

[The Greatest Dog]

Rename EoSD .exe to ??g?

Nao.

[チソウ タイゼン]

THLabyrinth dislikes patching correctly.
Also the new age of Touhou games (10, 11, 12) are all way too easy. I beat the Extra on 12, even. On normal, Perfect Cherry Blossom wipes the floor with me on stage four. Granted, that's when I'm attempting to 1CC it. With continues I get to Resurrection Butterfly: ~30% Reflowering~.

...THAT CARD CAN GO STRAIGHT TO HELL

[Alice★f]

Have done precisely this before.  No success.

I'm surprised.

Update your game, and run as admin.