Author Topic: NoTV 2 Mafia (Game Over, Scum and 3rd Party Win)  (Read 98278 times)

Conqueror

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #570 on: October 10, 2014, 05:16:14 AM »
Oh, psuedo-MYLO. Hmm.


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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #571 on: October 10, 2014, 05:17:21 AM »
So I guess that means there actually only are three scum. Plus a vig in play?


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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #572 on: October 10, 2014, 05:18:29 AM »
No wait, there could be four scum and a protective role in play. I think this is it given lolvigs.


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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #573 on: October 10, 2014, 05:21:19 AM »
<_< I thought there were eleven alive. You'r right, I'm stupid. If there's a vig they should definitely kill someone. There has to be more in play because it's psuedo.
According to his PR he got modkilled for not being happy enough. :V I guess mentioning the terrible fate waiting for him counted. I'm saying that he wouldn't fake having a result even if his role dosn't explicitly say he has one.

Considering he claimed Youkai and not human does it matter? :V


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Conqueror

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #574 on: October 10, 2014, 05:24:34 AM »
According to his PR he got modkilled for not being happy enough.
I hadn't seen it that way before but, uh. If this is true then this is the best and also the worst reason for getting modkilled.

No, it doesn't matter. :V I'm mostly curious in seeing your eventual catchup.  :3


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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #575 on: October 10, 2014, 06:33:54 AM »
His flip clearly didn't show his entire PM. It's possible he had another ability that could get us a guilty. On top of the fact that his flipped PM had absolutely no mention of him being a vampire, I'm 100% certain he had a guilty on Raikaria. Just lynch this scum in front of us already.

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #576 on: October 10, 2014, 06:35:01 AM »
Oh right, and everybody so far has flipped either Human or Vampire, and Aya/Hatate have both flipped with no mention of species, but they commuted on N2 so it doesn't matter, so I have absolutely no reason to believe that Byakuren is some other species. :|

Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #577 on: October 10, 2014, 06:49:19 AM »
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3 scum amongst (CF7, Sky, Raikarai, SB, Shadoweh, NNR, PX, BT) with Raikaria probably one of them. 

Conq, Mitsuki, Rawr confirmed town.  Also a chance I'm confirmed town if you think me knowing about the town errata win condition is a townslip.
how can i be confirmed town and be potential scum?

His flip clearly didn't show his entire PM. It's possible he had another ability that could get us a guilty. On top of the fact that his flipped PM had absolutely no mention of him being a vampire, I'm 100% certain he had a guilty on Raikaria. Just lynch this scum in front of us already.
Oh right, and everybody so far has flipped either Human or Vampire, and Aya/Hatate have both flipped with no mention of species, but they commuted on N2 so it doesn't matter, so I have absolutely no reason to believe that Byakuren is some other species. :|
are you for real px?

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ill go ahead and humor this and ask why you think his role pm isnt fully mentioned. also if after he was turned into a vampire why would he bus his buddy since the start of the day?
unless im missing something and the recruited isnt aware who his cum buddies are? but even then if he had a guilty on someone again why bus them?

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #578 on: October 10, 2014, 06:52:40 AM »
What? Dorian is town you idiot

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #579 on: October 10, 2014, 06:53:20 AM »
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His flip clearly didn't show his entire PM. It's possible he had another ability that could get us a guilty. On top of the fact that his flipped PM had absolutely no mention of him being a vampire
I'm guessing PX probably means "human" instead of "vampire" because otherwise the statement makes no sense. That said, it makes more sense for Dorian to have received night action results than to have a secret ability, I think.


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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #580 on: October 10, 2014, 06:54:15 AM »
but it said dorian was a vampire?

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #581 on: October 10, 2014, 06:54:22 AM »
Also, because I had the PR'd role last game. Since he died for breaking some sort of PR, most likely related to his role power that we were never supposed to know of, then yeah, I say he had a guilty on Raikaria to claim that he would die for it.

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #582 on: October 10, 2014, 06:54:33 AM »
Oh nvm I was reading it wrong.

Either way Dorian isn't the type of person to fakeclaim as town, which is what I think PX was trying to say.


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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #583 on: October 10, 2014, 06:54:52 AM »
im confused as fuck w/e ignore my last post

Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #584 on: October 10, 2014, 06:55:09 AM »
##Unvote

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #585 on: October 10, 2014, 06:57:34 AM »
Conq, why do you think Mitsuki is town?

Don't have time to do more, nor do I want to rush votes onto Raikaria for him to self-hammer, so keep him away from L-1 before I get back >.>

Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #586 on: October 10, 2014, 06:58:09 AM »
I AM SO CONFUSED BY DORIANS DEATH WHAT IS GOING ON

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #587 on: October 10, 2014, 07:04:55 AM »
Conq, why do you think Mitsuki is town?
Setupspec. :V Also sheeping Dan's reasoning on scum inforoles.

Although thinking back on it, that was a stupid reason. I guess I could fit Mitsuki into a Raikaria/Shadoweh/recruit scumteam.

Actually this made me read back and look at Mitsuki's posts around deadline yesterday and I noticed something.

@Raikaria: it's on the rules, humans can't act on N2. Not buying the bit on being a youkai
Raikaria didn't scumslip but he's scum anyways, someone hammer already
I thought this game was humans (humans + youkai) and vampires only, meh. Anyways I think I get why Dorian would recieve info on N2 in spite of being "human".
Mitsuki, if you thought the game was humans + youkai vs vampires, why was Raikaria scum for claiming youkai?


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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #588 on: October 10, 2014, 07:05:49 AM »
Dorian got modkilled. We don't know the exact reason why, although it has to do with the quoted bit in the modpost. That's all.


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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #589 on: October 10, 2014, 07:08:22 AM »
Do you think that scum would have a commuter+a role on top of that?

Post restrictions still suck.

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #590 on: October 10, 2014, 07:08:51 AM »
Nevermind, I can already predict what Mitsuki's answer is going to be since I can't read. Syntax is hard.

So my answer to SB is, I guess Mitsuki could be scum, but she's not a priority for me right now? >_>


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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #591 on: October 10, 2014, 07:11:18 AM »
I'm assuming all the commuters have roles. I have a role, Dan had a role, I'm assuming Mitsuki also has a role. At the start of the day I was thinking it was a clever way to make sure town PRs dont get recruited but then I remembered all the softclaims that existed.

As for whether she could be a scum role+commuter I dunno because I can't read Affinity's mind.


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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #592 on: October 10, 2014, 07:12:28 AM »
Edit: tbh once I saw 3 people commuting I half expected one of us to be scum via Affinity trying to mess with us. but who knows. tl;dr setup spec sucks.

I should stop double posting.


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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #593 on: October 10, 2014, 07:48:02 AM »
Raikaria, why would you randomly target people without considering the implications of what a compulsive visitor might do and how it interacts with the rest of the roles (i.e. potential trackers/watchers, dorian's claim that his action on dormio failed etc) given what you said yesterday about your role probably a game balance role. Also, the fact that you randomly happened to target someone who suspected and was pushing you the night he was janitor vigged. :V

Because I thought Dorimo was scum so if on the off chance my role interrupted any of his actions...

Anyway, tonight I visited Shadoweh.

Anyway, I have no clue what Dorian's death means, but I'll say this. It isn't some sort of cop result of anything. His role seems to contain nothing about such. It seems he just suicided for no reason. Especially since I was the primary wagon. Also echoing what Conq said, why would he wait until late Day 3 to force a 1v1 with his 'guilty'.

Also:

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You are Hatate Himekaidou, Town Commuter Cop and a tengu!

So; this adds credence to my claim of Town Youkai, doesn't it? Dorian was a Town Tengu, which is not a human, which is explicitly what is said to be the convert targets.

Anyway, as of now I am not playing for my survival, so let's go back to trying to get the scum lynched, because I am fairly sure there is scum tunneling on my wagon. And a certain player has been doing almost nothing but tunneling on me. Little to no other cases or even comments about other players.

While one could argue this shows confidence in his lynch on me, I argue if he had such confidence, he would have evidence. Also he has not even really made a solid case as to why he is lynching me.

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #594 on: October 10, 2014, 07:49:23 AM »
Wait no Dorian wasn't the Tengu Actiondan was.

I find it interesting he did not claim Tengu. Especially with this:

I feel like people who are immune to conversion should at least claim it.

Yes. Yes Actiondan they should. ._.


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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #595 on: October 10, 2014, 07:52:17 AM »
I have the moonstone, and yes, Dan claimed to me in it. Thought I'd make this clear from the beginning.
He wanted me to claim cop for him and out his D3 result if it was a guilty. He mentioned nothing about a N1 result, but that makes sense seeing his flip.

Also, I'm requesting that whoever has the moonstone pass it to me if possible. Thanks.

I'm not sure this is a good idea, it seems to have changed due to the Vampire Hunter's (which I'm assuming is Dorian) death.

Raikaria is as good as confirmed scum, anyways; there is no reason why Dorian would be modkilled if it was a gambit, so he truly had a result.
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Mitsuki, if you thought the game was humans + youkai vs vampires, why was Raikaria scum for claiming youkai?

Because I'm a youkai, couldn't act N2 so I assumed I counted as human. It's not claiming youkai, it's claiming not to count as human.

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #596 on: October 10, 2014, 09:19:42 AM »
[rolespec]Hm... It's a Pseudo-MyLo. We have 10 people. 1 is lynched today. That leaves 9. Next day will start with 8 people because of mafia NK. Maybe 7 if there's a vig. So. For it to be a game over for town i assume mafia has an extra kill. So that leaves 6 players. And if it's indeed a town loss with 6 players alive, then that leaves the only possible solution of 3 vs 3. So, that probably leaves us with 3 scum. [/rolespec]

That out of the way.
So looks like Dorian was our N2 convert. And i don't quite understand what happened, but looks like he just committed suicide, because of failing his PR one time too many. I.e. it was a mod-kill.
And i'll need to reread to check some things out.
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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #597 on: October 10, 2014, 09:23:29 AM »
[rolespec]Hm... It's a Pseudo-MyLo. We have 10 people. 1 is lynched today. That leaves 9. Next day will start with 8 people because of mafia NK. Maybe 7 if there's a vig. So. For it to be a game over for town i assume mafia has an extra kill. So that leaves 6 players. And if it's indeed a town loss with 6 players alive, then that leaves the only possible solution of 3 vs 3. So, that probably leaves us with 3 scum. [/rolespec]

That out of the way.
So looks like Dorian was our N2 convert. And i don't quite understand what happened, but looks like he just committed suicide, because of failing his PR one time too many. I.e. it was a mod-kill.
And i'll need to reread to check some things out.

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4 scum. 3 Original, one convert. Pseudo basically means we have a doctor. COME ON

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #598 on: October 10, 2014, 09:24:04 AM »
Also. DORIAN WAS TOWN. NOT SCUM. COME ON

Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Four) (Psuedo-MyLO)
« Reply #599 on: October 10, 2014, 09:27:29 AM »
Also. DORIAN WAS TOWN. NOT SCUM. COME ON
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