Author Topic: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Superb) (Read 108868 times)

Moridin · « **Reply #600 on:** September 12, 2014, 08:37:18 AM »

Quote from: Sky_Paladin on September 11, 2014, 11:30:03 PM

Moridin, can you please explain why you did worse-than-nothing with your night talk ability?

I was going to say something along of the lines of "The last MAFIA player is probably Schezo or Dorion, but really, just vote for whoever Affinity & Primms thinks are MAFIA". However, I figured people would probably just get mad at me for that :p

People have been saying that my playstyle isn't very effective, and it's quite tiring so I'm thinking of switching back to my playstyle of the previous game. Which is to coast along, make the occasional comment, and vote for whoever is the MAFIA-est.

Quote from: Schezo

lmao this role. Oh well take me away boys. I got my scum.

I don't do anything with that. serves me right for forcing you to say you sheeped me.
um let's see. Affinity scum final answer gg if not cf7s slot. 3 bus 5 me.
##Vote: Affinity

lol

Not going to vote for Schezo right now. Probably no reason to quick lynch him right?

Dorian White · « **Reply #601 on:** September 12, 2014, 10:00:41 AM »

Well, I think it's a bit too early for the ?cosmic force? to command all of us to get paranoid about Affinity yet. At least since the guy has a good chance to be the next NK target but if I'm right then it wouldn't come to that.
I also think that interaction isn't clear in that direction. Even when Affinity bused both of his buddies, do you think the two would go down without any real objection?

But there is another thing why I don't see Affinity as scum. If he didn't stepped in to mediate then Sky and I would be still mostly busy with fighting each other. Where is the benefit for scum Affinity to mediate in a town vs town fight? Why doing that when it would be much easier and profitable for him to play both ends against the middle?

@Moridin: Oh please, don't do that. Why do you even think a method that didn't worked for you as SK would work for you as town anyway?

Serela · « **Reply #602 on:** September 12, 2014, 02:01:58 PM »

Quote from: ActionDan on September 12, 2014, 04:27:17 AM

also possibility of SK - 2 goon setup. those happen

Let's ignore the possibility of sk until there's actually an extra nk?

Schezo's voting affinity because "lol voted the scum" so uh yeah.

ActionDan · « **Reply #603 on:** September 12, 2014, 02:11:29 PM »

I don't get it either but w/e

Serela · « **Reply #604 on:** September 12, 2014, 02:14:54 PM »

LLD do you really not have anything to say at all? :C Schezo did his weird thing and you said "wat" so you clearly were reading the thread, but otherwise we have absolutely no idea who you think might be scum.

Okay, so the other things we're waiting for are... SkyPal reiterating his LLD case I guess. Moridin's already admitted he's got nothin' (yeah that wasn't a very solid counterwagon d2 I'd still be pretty up for lynching him tomorrow if schezo flips town) and I think everyone else has already said their piece.

...everyone else has already said their piece and the only suggestion for a non-Schezo lynch is from SkyPal on LLD, (with no complaints against a Schezo lynch not counting quicklynch adversity :V) it's really not that surprising I felt like just quicklynching him.

Affinity · « **Reply #605 on:** September 12, 2014, 04:18:07 PM »

I think bussing D1 and D2 in a 12-player game is a bit silly, especially when there's possibly a handful of town roles about and up to 3 mislynches left. If I were scum I'd rather do it on D2 and D4 as I'd only have one mislynch left to aim for. I think this is the majority view, and why I think heavy bussing over two days is kinda unlikely in general.

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I don't agree with Sky's case because lots of it is based on the myth that scum don't go for the same person on wagons. This is an example:

Quote from: Sky

The reason you would bus Raikaria at 5 votes is because scum knew they couldn't pile all their votes on the mislynch of ActionDan.

But why not? It's fair play for scum to go all out a town counterwagon to secure a town mislynch over a scum flip. Remember scum probably only need 3 mislynches to win the game, and if the ActionDan lynch went through, it would give Rai more time to deflect attention, and no one could know for sure that Raikaria was scum until the end of D2 at least. Even then, 2 scum would have had 4 townies to hide within, and they would be in a better position than now probably. It's quite a forseeable scum plan, and thus I really disagree with most of the premises Sky churns out.

Can understand his frustration over LLD's posting style, but that's life I guess. I'm inclined to see her wagon involvements as slightly leaning town.

Affinity · « **Reply #606 on:** September 12, 2014, 04:26:41 PM »

Actually, I do think a quicklynch of Schezo isn't a bad idea. He's not even trying much right now and I don't think he would for the rest of the day; he seems static and so our votes would be. Unless someone has something to say or something to defend Schezo with (though Schezo should really be defending himself), I think we should go ahead and mire ourselves in thought only tomorrow if there's one.

Serela · « **Reply #607 on:** September 12, 2014, 04:35:41 PM »

Yeah, there's this big stigma against quicklynches because "but we're wasting all the time we could have used for discussion!" but IMO the waste is waiting out 48+ hours when it's already obvious we're lynching Schezo (He's not doing anything to dissuade it, and Sky is literally the only person who's so much as implied wanting to lynch someone else, not counting Dan putzing around helplessly; an SK? Both nights had 1 nightkill.) and any discussion can still happen tomorrow just fine.

WHMZakeri · « **Reply #608 on:** September 12, 2014, 04:36:39 PM »

This Watch is cute and functional!

Schezo: (3) Affinity, Serela, Dorian [L-2]
Affinity: (1) Schezo

Not voting: ActionDan, Moridin84, Lexicat, Sky_paladin
5 votes needed to Lynch
54 Hours and 38 minutes Left

Serela · « **Reply #609 on:** September 12, 2014, 04:42:01 PM »

and re:Schezo on Affinity with the laziest vote possible, even if Schezo flips town Affinity is pretty low on my lynch priorities list. I'd go after Moridin, and then after that start wondering if we could actually get LLD lynched. Oh wait. I think we'd be in LyLo at that point. Choosing between Affinity/LLD for lylo... hrm. Well we'll hopefully find the scum before that happens.

Schezo · « **Reply #610 on:** September 12, 2014, 05:22:43 PM »

He didn't have a choice day 1 Raikaria was getting lynched

Serela · « **Reply #611 on:** September 12, 2014, 05:27:26 PM »

it might help if your case was more compelling then "affinity voted bard"

I mean that's not even me summarizing your case, that's just... the entire thing.

A lot of people voted Bard. You could accuse Moridin, LLD, or Dan of doing the same thing. "But meta" isn't a good response in this case because Affinity being on the scum wagon isn't very compelling of a meta reason.

Lexicat · « **Reply #612 on:** September 12, 2014, 08:14:30 PM »

Bahhhh I'm so tired.

Dorian White · « **Reply #613 on:** September 12, 2014, 08:51:51 PM »

Quote from: Schezo on September 12, 2014, 05:22:43 PM

He didn't have a choice day 1 Raikaria was getting lynched

What are you taking about? Of course had he a choice, his vote on Dan and Raikaria could have hammered, e finito!
With the all around agreement on Dan wouldn?t it to hard to justify and then he could still bus Raikaria day two.

ActionDan · « **Reply #614 on:** September 12, 2014, 09:02:05 PM »

It's not so so easy to switch in the blink of an eye without sufficient justification. Regardless, Affinity is likely likely town.

Dorian White · « **Reply #615 on:** September 12, 2014, 09:24:21 PM »

I never said it would have been easy, I said that I see ways for him to do it and get away with it.

Affinity · « **Reply #616 on:** September 13, 2014, 12:20:05 AM »

moridin what do you think of Schezo? Also how about that Dorian suspicion you had from yesterday?

Affinity · « **Reply #617 on:** September 13, 2014, 01:00:24 AM »

yeah quite a number of town genuinely suspected Dan (including me) on D1. wouldn't be that difficult to number myself among them if i was scum.

Lexicat · « **Reply #618 on:** September 13, 2014, 01:12:48 AM »

Schezo I want a full role claim please.

Serela · « **Reply #619 on:** September 13, 2014, 02:09:23 AM »

wow that actually completely skipped my mind

I guess Schezo really should have claimed by now if he actually had anything worth caring about, though? But yeah he should claim.

Schezo · « **Reply #620 on:** September 13, 2014, 03:12:05 AM »

If I get 3 people to sheep me I get a promotion. Turns out that shit was a bust.

Serela · « **Reply #621 on:** September 13, 2014, 03:28:24 AM »

Whilst Schezo's "claim" makes me more inclined to think he's town, playwise he looks too much like the final scum to possibly ignore based on something flimsy like that.

Affinity · « **Reply #622 on:** September 13, 2014, 04:29:36 AM »

hm serela you seem too detailed about stuff for some reason

schezo is that it?

Schezo · « **Reply #623 on:** September 13, 2014, 04:53:27 AM »

After I got the first scum I was just "just let me live long enough to proc this power the third time, oh just kidding I'm trolled alright take me out"

I guess Serela's slot is probably more maflord than Affinity and I'll explain it more towards the end of the night. Until then you can lynch me I don't care

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #624 on:** September 13, 2014, 06:30:03 AM »

I'm willing to hear Schezo's explanation (aka I'm busy all day and this is the only chance I had to hop in, hope to post tonight) because I thought he was town day 1, odd day 2, and day 3 has been pretty terrible.

Sigh

There's lots I want to say but I have no time.

Not much has changed. Dropped Serela down into scummy category; so my picks in order are LLD/(Schezo or Moridon)/Serela. I can't see Moridin scum because of the counterwagon yesterday but his performance day 2/day 3 and night 2 commentary hurt me deep inside. Gotta go

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #625 on:** September 13, 2014, 07:19:21 AM »

Belay that. Schezo, can you post at night? Are you counter claiming Moridin? Please clarify.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #626 on:** September 13, 2014, 08:34:43 AM »

Because you said "I'll explain it more to the end of the night" soooo I assume you meant RL yeah?

Moridin · « **Reply #627 on:** September 13, 2014, 10:23:38 AM »

Affinity pushed Just the entirety of day 2. Just may not have been lynched otherwise. So I think it is super unlikely that Affinity is MAFIA.

I don't think there is much point in dragged it out any further.

##vote Schezo

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #628 on:** September 13, 2014, 11:03:12 AM »

Do not hammer before claim.

Sky_Paladin · « **Reply #629 on:** September 13, 2014, 11:06:40 AM »

It shits me that there is so much to do and talk about and the case on Schezo is "because it would be convenient" and SzheO is making the opposite of any effort I defend. Like Lexi. And Serela so scummy and I have no time/ I am right now walking on a tour of takasago shrine and can't do jack. Rage.