Author Topic: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Superb)  (Read 108867 times)

Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #450 on: September 09, 2014, 11:18:41 AM »
I would really love if people were to explain why exactly they think I'm MAFIA.

Everyone else gets quotes and arguments, I just get unexplained votes and vague comments. I've been ignoring them because they seem pointless, however, I have a feeling I may end up being lynched purely on that, which I find mildly offensive.

i am actually confused why so many people aren't even looking into Bard since he's been a hot target both days and the dead guy who brought us our D1 scum lynch went down agreeing he was mafia
I think the main problem is that you and Affinity are so super convinced that Just is MAFIA, that you never really explained it properly.

I don't need you need to link his posts or anything elaborate. A simply list of 5 or more points from both you and Affinity would suffice.

I'm not trying to defend Just here. I just want you to explain things in a way that I can understand.

Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #451 on: September 09, 2014, 12:34:42 PM »
Actually I'm going to jump on the Just wagon. Not because I'm convinced he is MAFIA (still want those arguments from Primms and Affinity), or because I'm convinced Dorion isn't (need to review) but because Just hasn't posted very much in day 2 and it's suspicious. It could be that he's actually MAFIA but is not posting in hopes that everyone forgets about him.

Voting should put Just under pressure to talk, though ideally not at L-1, four hours before lynch time like with ActionDan.

##unvote
##vote Just

Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #452 on: September 09, 2014, 12:42:49 PM »
Oh, I just realized that I missed the almost the entirety of page 15.

And Primms does explain his case there. Most of his argument is meta which I don't know about, so I need another player to confirm / deny this interpretation. The other part is a comment on Justs lack of effort, which is a good point.

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #453 on: September 09, 2014, 12:43:04 PM »
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nobody explains why it's scum!me doing that as a bus and not just, you know, town me being convinced by the guy who got shot

Dislike this argument because "guy who got shot" only became known as such after N1. "I followed Townie" only valid if knew was Townie when you sheeped. Reason to get off Dan was "don't like company", when company on wagon isn't indication of whether wagon is Town or Scum. Weak reason to jump off imo.

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Bard's copious amount of reasons for voting huhwhat D1 had almost nil effect on the game at all

People tend not to buy into any of my cases in any given game, thanks for rubbing it in. Don't see how lacking persuasion is scummy. Case is solid to me.
Affinity misrep with "aren't considering anyone else": I make case on scummiest person and focus attention there. You only talk about me, pot calling kettle black; no one else seems scum to you? Actually don't like arguments as here because Mafia isn't just logical game.

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really though Bard if you're town what happened to your D1 effort?
University of Law.



Sky thinks LSD has a QT with me and so votes me because I have more votes? This town.

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #454 on: September 09, 2014, 01:01:48 PM »
LSD barely posted D1 and slipped mind because doesn't play often. I've been through back-and-forth with Dan before over posting minimal, get tired of it. Ironic people voting me partially due to low amt of posts, but wcyd.
Dan content posts at L-1, then no content at L-6 again. Frustrated.
Huh What efforts today litany of Bard Bard Bard, desperate begging for votes seems town enough so willing to put that to rest.
##Unvote

Not fond of Affinity as listed above, misrepping case(s?) while citing stuff as "scummy" that is personality. Lack of persuasive power is personality flaw, not scummy play (unless normally persuasive, but track record of people believing my cases p. low, see DormioQTGate).
##Vote; Affinity
Also feel this line of questioning is scum-motivated:
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Secondly, it is interesting to consider that Sky_Paladin, CF7, miordin and Bardiche have all voted for ActionDan without considering Lexicat, who boasts a similar amount of content.  Why is this so?  Why Dan over LLD?
Throws dirt on LSD while refusing to bring forth reasons himself, doesn't actually mention LSD much entire game despite this. Scummy when other mention of LSD is to lynch, never explained why, but criticises other people for not saying why (not).

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #455 on: September 09, 2014, 01:45:27 PM »
Well he's making a comparison there.

It's not: "I want LLD lynched"
It's: "I'd lynch LLD over Dan even"

Don't lynch me.

ActionDan

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #456 on: September 09, 2014, 01:46:05 PM »
(imo votes on Affinity are lolzy no matter what people come up with)

Don't lynch me.

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #457 on: September 09, 2014, 03:00:57 PM »
@Bard:I did not throw dirt on LSD, I was just interested to know why people (especially the new ones who didn't know LLD's meta) would go for Dan over LLD when they had the same lurker profile.

sigh whatever bard.  you're dealing with a straw-man of the beef against you, and it's tastier than what you think.  what do you think of other people like Schezo, mirodin, Sky, etc.

@Sky:  By direction I meant that you were going the route of flash and bang, creating noise.  why else would you ask Dorian 'are you scum?' or 'is your case on me cause i voted you?'.  How else do you think a person would answer other than no?  Those don't provide content at all, only bad feelings that serve to distract and stuff.  It hurts your case, whether good or bad (I think it's tunnel-y and not convincing).

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #458 on: September 09, 2014, 03:04:04 PM »
@mirodin: Mine are here

prims' is here

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #459 on: September 09, 2014, 03:04:41 PM »
Do not let Just get to L-1 or he may self hammer.
Please note Just and Lex's reaction to "you are in a qt together" was not any form of "it's not true" and in fact neither of them responded either way. Lex even shut up when I made my claim and vote.
I beleive this: they can't say they aren't in a qt together because they know I have something to say otherwise. 
If Bard is red Lex is absolutely scum.  If he dies while I am sleeping please anybody who can sab/shoot/disable take down Lex during the night phase.
I'll post slam dunk when after I get up, I just wanted to make sure you didn't accidentally kill Just while I was away and then I died overnight.
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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #460 on: September 09, 2014, 03:06:08 PM »
whatever sky!  you're insane.

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #461 on: September 09, 2014, 05:05:37 PM »
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I beleive this: they can't say they aren't in a qt together because they know I have something to say otherwise.

Asking "are you in scum QT together" is stupid question, only answer is always "no". Stupid questions with obv answers tend not to be answered, but if tickles your fancy:

LSD and I do not share a QT.

Your question is stupid. Stop 'gotcha' play, start scumhunting.

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what do you think of other people like Schezo, mirodin, Sky, etc.

... Mirodin? Rhythm Heaven Mafia, more like Everyone Getting All The Names Wrong Mafia.

Read Schezo few times, not sure. Dislike argument here re: Scum!HW hammer, then cheeky "j/k" remark. If Schezo Scum then bussed Raikaria from start with shitty vague reasons? Don't think it likely.
Don't like Moridin vote for "pressure 2 talk", feels superfluous. Vote here seems insincere? What is case on ActionDan? OMGUS textbook was read and used? Vote on me for pressure? Where are reasons?
Sky, regrettably insane. Massive walls makes me not want to read him. Latest posts imply insane again, or thinking Mafia is game where 100% sure scum will permit 'gotcha' gameplay. Sadly, playing Mafia, not Gotcha.

##Unvote
##Vote: Moridin

Affinity has opened eyes. Moridin vote reasons non-exist entire game.

Bardiche

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #462 on: September 09, 2014, 05:06:22 PM »
Will read Sky later, need whiskey.

Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Night One)
« Reply #463 on: September 09, 2014, 06:27:26 PM »
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Just: (4) Prims, Affinity, Sky_Paladin, Moridin84
Moridin: (2)  Schezo, Just
Sky_Paladin: (2) Dorian, Lexicat
Primms: (1) CF7
CF7: (1) ActionDan

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« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 06:34:11 PM by Turnover Zakeri »

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #464 on: September 09, 2014, 06:52:38 PM »
Do not let Just get to L-1 or he may self hammer.
Please note Just and Lex's reaction to "you are in a qt together" was not any form of "it's not true" and in fact neither of them responded either way. Lex even shut up when I made my claim and vote.
I beleive this: they can't say they aren't in a qt together because they know I have something to say otherwise. 
If Bard is red Lex is absolutely scum.  If he dies while I am sleeping please anybody who can sab/shoot/disable take down Lex during the night phase.
I'll post slam dunk when after I get up, I just wanted to make sure you didn't accidentally kill Just while I was away and then I died overnight.

First off, you're really bad if you need me to explain why your logic here is terrible.

Secondly, you're definitely doing it on purpose at this point. Seriously stop calling me Lex.

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #465 on: September 09, 2014, 07:02:02 PM »
Are you ready for me to play this game?! Oh boy it's gonna be a great time I haven't read a single thing before this page but I can already tell.

I haven't actually gotten CF7's rolepm yet though (just responded to Zak's request to confirm I'm able to replace in right now) so I'll see you all in a few hours or something. I need to actually read the game first either way >.>
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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #466 on: September 09, 2014, 07:53:41 PM »
... Mirodin? Rhythm Heaven Mafia, more like Everyone Getting All The Names Wrong Mafia.

Read Schezo few times, not sure. Dislike argument here re: Scum!HW hammer, then cheeky "j/k" remark. If Schezo Scum then bussed Raikaria from start with shitty vague reasons? Don't think it likely.
Don't like Moridin vote for "pressure 2 talk", feels superfluous. Vote here seems insincere? What is case on ActionDan? OMGUS textbook was read and used? Vote on me for pressure? Where are reasons?
Sky, regrettably insane. Massive walls makes me not want to read him. Latest posts imply insane again, or thinking Mafia is game where 100% sure scum will permit 'gotcha' gameplay. Sadly, playing Mafia, not Gotcha.

##Unvote
##Vote: Moridin

Affinity has opened eyes. Moridin vote reasons non-exist entire game.
Mirodin isn't really as comical as Morrison.

And finally, someone decided to me actually reasons being voting for talking about voting for me. Kind of disappointed though, was hoping for better ones. I'm not even sure if there is anything here I need to counter.

Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #467 on: September 09, 2014, 08:04:42 PM »
Serela officially replaces in for CF7

Just: (4) Prims, Affinity, Sky_Paladin, Moridin84
Moridin: (2)  Schezo, Just
Sky_Paladin: (2) Dorian, Lexicat
Serela: (1) ActionDan

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« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 08:08:48 PM by Turnover Zakeri »

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #468 on: September 09, 2014, 09:39:42 PM »
Dorian serious question time. How much of your case on me is because I have been scum reading you all game?
Well, let me rephrase that question to make it clear. What would you think of someone you suspect that answers the points you press with an all out attack against you?
Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
It's not part of my case at all but it certainly didn't helped to see you as town, I guess you get the idea.

However, I don't like it but I have to agree with HuhWhat. To pick up a fight with Affinity is a call for attention that doesn't fit in my Scum Paladin picture and if he intended to end on the Bard wagon then he would have picked a more elegant way to do so.

##Unvote


Speaking of the Bard wagon, which makes me think that I seriously missed something here.

@Bard: What made you think that going with the target of the ?policy lynch? that you obviously dissented with?
Also, and that question goes to Schezo too. The scum team already lost Raikaria, so what makes you think that his buddy would leave him with nothing else to take about at night than ?waffle on Dan and then jump on that scum slip??

I wouldn't vote Bard at the moment for obvious reason and I'm not solid on Mirodin being scum, so

##Vote: Schezo

A quick reread expose his ?turbo bussing? as a mere vote park. And where Bards day two content is lacking is Schezos as good as not extant, and his vote looks more like going the line of least resistance than actual scum hunting.
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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #469 on: September 09, 2014, 10:21:52 PM »
Lexi, when I'm on my iphone, "Lexi" autocorrects to "Levi".  It got annoying having to waste precious keypresses so I decided if you couldn't be bothered to answer any of my quite reasonable questions, I couldn't be bothered pressing the extra buttons.  Anyway...

IT'S BIG REVEAL TIME!

Earlier during this day phase, Lexi said...
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Would you perchance happen to be a programmer with a hard on for overly analytical thinking and large useless quote walls?

At the time I thought, "That's awfully specific and also correct.  Did Lexi come up with it on her own, or did she have help?  And if she had help, who did she get help from?"

There's actually two players who might have helped her, but I only have a good claim against Bard. 

In Medaka Box Mafia, in the scum quicktopic, in the very last message, Just (as Bard) said:
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Sky Pal is really "LOGIC STRONK" even if I think his logic is completely illogical. Maybe an appeal to logic will tickle his fancy, given that Shadoweh relies more on intuitive reasoning rather than logical reasoning.

My gut says that it's very likely Lexi didn't come up with that on her own; and instead she's going from something somebody in the scum quicktopic has written about me after she's written in there "I don't know anything about this Sky_Paladin, somebody fill me in quick." 

I think the player who most fits this mystery hand is Just.  There is also an outside chance it is Moridin, though, because we've played a lot of games together, however I don't use quote walls in Megatokyo mafia so my money is on Bard. 

***

Either way, my case boils down to 'I think Lexi had help on that statement.'  That means she's scum, or at the very least, in a quicktopic with somebody.  It is possible she came up with the conclusion on her own - the programmer bit is in my signature, however the analytical/quote walls part...isn't really reflected in this game, since I haven't made any quote walls.  Walls, yes.  Quotes, yes.  But quote-walls?  I don't think I did that here. 

I voted Bard because I thought it was most likely he was a scum buddy with Lexi, however upon reflection of a good nights sleep, I consider Lexi definitely scum and Bard only 'maybe' scum. 

So if we consider a Bard/Lexi/Raikaria scum team, there should be some interactions to support this, yes?  I'll go through and have a look now.  In the mean time, you can all review what I've said here, and either agree with Bard that I'm crazy, or at the very least come up with some colourful opinions. 

In the short term, I'm doing this. 

##unvote
##vote Lexicat


Proper case in the next post because nobody reads what I write anyway so I might as well break it up and double my chances of being read. 
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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #470 on: September 09, 2014, 10:49:54 PM »
So wait, I'm sorry are you seriously saying that me reading the kind of person you are takes any extra help, let alone any effort?

That's laughable.

Lexicat

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #471 on: September 09, 2014, 10:54:29 PM »
Anyway, you're town. Annoyingly bad, but town.

Vote: Just

I figure this is what I need to do today, but I'm a little nervous about Moridin/Affinity.

Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #472 on: September 09, 2014, 11:09:19 PM »
Sky... you are crazy.

Leaving my vote on Just. The arguments against him are fairly reasonable.

I haven't actually read back over the Dorion stuff.

Why is Affinity suspious now? Thought he was solid TOWN.

Bardiche

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #473 on: September 09, 2014, 11:13:18 PM »
Read Sky Paladin in full, is understandably insane but regrettably not Scum. Votes on me are Prims and Affinity clinging to past, Moridin "pls post bard" and LSD whose arcane reasons can never be understood.

Re: Dan: Affinity bringing that up to begin with is weird; no one wants to vote LSD. I did it once. Tag teamed with UK. It was glorious. Hearts were broken. Mostly mine.

Cut by Moridin. Proving my grounds for voting: vapid vote reasons teetering on the brink of vapour.
Dorian horribly forgettable this game. Dan non-existant, Schezo taking notes.

Bardiche

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #474 on: September 09, 2014, 11:17:15 PM »
Reading Medaka Box, K4u gives good advice to Sky Pal. Should heed sometime. Mafia is 30/50 logic/gut imo.

Lexicat

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #475 on: September 09, 2014, 11:29:14 PM »
Meow~

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #476 on: September 09, 2014, 11:34:06 PM »
It's okay, even with your infuriatingly difficult to follow posts and reasons I don't think you're Scum; I think you'd make more of an effort to actually contribute and get people to look one way or the other.

Lexicat

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #477 on: September 09, 2014, 11:35:16 PM »
It's okay, even with your infuriatingly difficult to follow posts and reasons I don't think you're Scum; I think you'd make more of an effort to actually contribute and get people to look one way or the other.

Aw, it's almost like you know me~.


ActionDan

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Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #478 on: September 09, 2014, 11:43:26 PM »
Mirodin isn't really as comical as Morrison.

And finally, someone decided to me actually reasons being voting for talking about voting for me. Kind of disappointed though, was hoping for better ones. I'm not even sure if there is anything here I need to counter.

For starters, why'd you vote me?

Don't lynch me.

Re: Rhythm Heaven Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #479 on: September 10, 2014, 12:02:08 AM »
Just: (4) Prims, Affinity, Moridin84, Lexicat
Moridin: (2)  Schezo, Just
Serela: (1) ActionDan
Schezo: (1) Dorian
Lexicat: (1) Sky_Paladin

Not voting: Serela

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« Last Edit: September 10, 2014, 12:36:54 AM by Turnover Zakeri »