NSP Mafia - Game Over

[pokemon123]

[Sky_Paladin]

Pokemon, do you have some kind of post restriction? 

[pokemon123]

Pokemon, do you have some kind of post restriction?

[Raikaria]

Well; this is gonna get irritating fast. But a post restriction is a post restriction; at least he's not being needlessly annoying like Yoshika.

Anyway this is a very tiny thing; not even enough to vote for but I gotta ask:

Why did you change your vote?

Why does that even matter? It was clearly still RVS.

[Vhaltz]

Good evening, would you like a votecount? *murdered*

Zakeri: DNA, Shadoweh
Pokemon123 (Junko): BBM, SB, Zakeri
Candeloro (Poly): Raikaria
NekoNekoRex: Skypal
Skypal: Junko

Voteless scrubs: NNR, Poly

[Shadoweh]

Wait, I just realized Serela isn't in this game. You jerk! One of you replace out plz
Well, tiny things are how we get the ball rolling. Even if you phrase them in the most self-conscious way. <_<

[DNAbc]

Junko, what exactly is your post restriction? Can you try to explain that pictographically while we make guesses at your intent?

btw, I would advise you to use a simpler code, like use images which contain one singular clear word/idea you are trying to express (since if this is actually a srs restriction and not some massive gambit it should be expected he cant post images containing letters. bleh)

atm I don't understand a thing you posted. Can you simplify that post where you posted a sun and a dude thinking about being different?

also the sun reminds me of how hot and wet it is over here. Oh woe mother earth, why art thou so cruel?

[Raikaria]

Wait, I just realized Serela isn't in this game. You jerk! One of you replace out plz
Well, tiny things are how we get the ball rolling. Even if you phrase them in the most self-conscious way. <_<

Well usually I try to get the ball rolling with a vote; but this is so small it's not even justifiable to do that.

[WHMZakeri]

Wait, I just realized Serela isn't in this game. You jerk! One of you replace out plz

Working on it.
Wait, whoops.

Junko, what exactly is your post restriction? Can you try to explain that pictographically while we make guesses at your intent?

I'm guessing the restriction is simply no words or letters
whatever the case, I don't have anywhere else to keep my vote.

[BigBangMeteor]

Well; this is gonna get irritating fast. But a post restriction is a post restriction; at least he's not being needlessly annoying like Yoshika.

Anyway this is a very tiny thing; not even enough to vote for but I gotta ask:

Why does that even matter? It was clearly still RVS.

If you don't try to move things out of RVS, they never will. I wanted to see what his reaction would be to the question. His reaction was okay I guess, since he didn't overreact in any way and just answered it simply.

also, post restrictions are lame

[BigBangMeteor]

also I'm guessing from the sun picture that Junko can only have thoughts during the day and from the picture of the sun setting that he can post during the night

[NekoNekoRex]

Pokemon works during the day so he can only post when he gets back, pretty simple stuff.
He can't type words at all except to vote (as the first post indicated).
I would advise he use smaller images to convey his thoughts however.

Anyway I'm here

##Vote: Zakerei

Post restrictions (or just irritating posts) can be lame but that's no (good) reason to set a vote down on them.

[BigBangMeteor]

##Unvote, ##Vote: NNR

That's not what Zak said at all; he said that he had nobody else to vote, not that he was voting Junko for having the posting restriction. For one thing, he was voting Junko before we realized he had a posting restriction. And for that matter, I also posted after the posting restriction became clear and didn't move my vote away from Junko either. Why is Zak worse?

[DNAbc]

i am getting tryharding vibes from BBM, generally that's pretty safe coming from town!BBM on d1 so i am waiting and seeing


##Umvote to remain politically neutral

[BigBangMeteor]

Why are you remaining neutral? Do you have no opinions?

Also AFAICR the last town game I played here was An Untitled Mafia, which was over 8 months ago, so that seems kind of a hasty judgement.

[DNAbc]

i just have no opinions, is that a problem? :V

you had the most activity so i talked about you but you shot down the topic yourself

like i dunno, mb we can start guessing at what Junko is saying? that seems like a massive waste of time to me tho so i would just wait for him to simplify his codes

yeah theres nothing here, its stale

[Raikaria]

If you don't try to move things out of RVS, they never will. I wanted to see what his reaction would be to the question. His reaction was okay I guess, since he didn't overreact in any way and just answered it simply.

also, post restrictions are lame

Eh; fair point, I was just attempting to start some sort of discussion.

I'll also echo what BBM said; NNR; Zakeri already said his vote is currently a placeholder now that he knows it's a posting restriction. I don't agree with voting Zakeri for a vote he made when he did not have the information he did now; especially after he he outright stated that he's only placeholding right now.

Currently keeping my vote where it is because we're yet to see Poly.

[DNAbc]

tbh i would rather lynch Junko off the face of the planet since i trust Vhaltzo to not include such a confusing role in the setup. but thats like super personal so i am trying to set it aside for now

[pokemon123]

I'll also echo what BBM said; NNR; Zakeri already said his vote is currently a placeholder now that he knows it's a posting restriction. I don't agree with voting Zakeri for a vote he made when he did not have the information he did now; especially after he he outright stated that he's only placeholding right now.

[BigBangMeteor]

tbh i would rather lynch Junko off the face of the planet since i trust Vhaltzo to not include such a confusing role in the setup. but thats like super personal so i am trying to set it aside for now

I don't think Junko would come up with a fake like this by himself. The posting restriction doesn't say anything about his alignment but I highly doubt it's completely made up.

[WHMZakeri]

That's not what Zak said at all; he said that he had nobody else to vote, not that he was voting Junko for having the posting restriction. For one thing, he was voting Junko before we realized he had a posting restriction. And for that matter, I also posted after the posting restriction became clear and didn't move my vote away from Junko either. Why is Zak worse?

Pretty much this. My vote is a holdover from before I learned it was a post restriction.
That said, I don't like the defense of "Why is Zak worse" and I would never use it myself. He obviously picked me because my vote stood out more than yours did, not because he took both of our votes into a complete vacuum and weighed them to be measured in different quantities of scumminess.

I still want to lynch Junko, but not for anything dealing with Scumminess or whether a post restriction in this game could be legit or not.

##Unvote
##Vote: BBM mostly gut reaction to the defense he used in my place, particularly the way he used it rather than the fact that it happened.

[Raikaria]

I don't think Junko would come up with a fake like this by himself. The posting restriction doesn't say anything about his alignment but I highly doubt it's completely made up.

I think if it was made up the mod would have yelled at him already.

Seeing the Yoshika incident and everything.

[Raikaria]

Is this you saying you find that quote scummy in some way? He looks kinda like a mafia godfather or something.

I can assure you this is not the case. I am looking for scum and non-scum actions to figure out who is what right now, and thus I like to comment on ongoing events.

Zakeri's reaction to BBM's 'defense' of him seems a little confusing; but he does say it's mostly gut to the last sentence, and I can see where that might be coming from.

[pokemon123]

also I'm guessing from the sun picture that Junko can only have thoughts during the day and from the picture of the sun setting that he can post during the night

[pokemon123]

Is this you saying you find that quote scummy in some way? He looks kinda like a mafia godfather or something.

[Raikaria]

I understand that post. OK. Deciphering this code will hopefully continue with minimal misunderstandings.

[SB]

I'd say that Junko is probably town just because giving town a mafia member to catch based on them posting weird pictures and nightposts is kind of terrible design.

DNA: What was the point in the unvote? Nobody was about to call you out for an RVS vote or anything. It just looks weird.

Zak's BBM vote confuses me. Why is BBM scum for asking why NNR did something? NNR clearly did make a decision, even if he didn't explain it, and there's nothing wrong with inquiring about that. Zak never actually says why BBM is scummy for it either.

##Unvote
##Vote: Zakeri

[WHMZakeri]

Zakeri's reaction to BBM's 'defense' of him seems a little confusing; but he does say it's mostly gut to the last sentence, and I can see where that might be coming from.

Basically, the use of "Why X not Y?" is a fallacy based argument which is a soft scumtell. I don't like that he used it in what was basically a unneeded defense for me, in what might have been an attempt at buddying me. It also makes the NNR vote look more opportunistic than a regular RVS-jumping vote should be.

Cut: I don't think BBM's vote is as harmless as information gathering like you're implying it is, SB.
Also I'm pretty sure I did say why he was scum, though Raikaria proved I needed to clarify since it being preceded by "I don't like how..." Was confusing to other people.

[WHMZakeri]

SB and BBM For mafia.

T-10 until someone tries to correct me on making use of scumbuddy theories even though I'm the one who has to drag up the examples of it screwing town over all the time.

[Shadoweh]

A bit busy, work, roleplay, etc, endeavouring not to be the person who replaces out for Serela
Rairai, I don't know why you keep bringing Yoshika up, I'm pretty sure Dormio got nightkilled that game for being super townie despite(because of) the self-imposed PR.
Also Darkninja's posts are notably horrible and more interesting then Junko's yes's and nos.

i just have no opinions, is that a problem? :V
you had the most activity so i talked about you but you shot down the topic yourself
like i dunno, mb we can start guessing at what Junko is saying? that seems like a massive waste of time to me tho so i would just wait for him to simplify his codes
yeah theres nothing here, its stale

BBM didn't shoot down himself as a topic, he was commenting on your opinion. You could reply to him more clearly about what you think he's doing that's town. (Even if it's true, etc. I think BBM is more fluid/loose as town, and as mafia he's more like, gentlemanly polite)

Zak: It's silly for you to vote someone for explaining your actions in a way you agree is truthful. Getting someone to explain why they feel one person is worse then the other is a pretty normal scumhunting thing, it's different from just defending yourself.
Cut: I'd say Down with SF but they're not the only ones now :<