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Sky_Paladin

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #240 on: July 22, 2014, 09:47:24 AM »
Raikaria, you are just plain wrong. 

I want you to go back and read your own post where you said BT was more likely to be scum than I, but voted for me because BT didn't want you to lynch him. 

I think at this stage you are forced to vote for me because you know if BT dies and flips town, we will lynch you by POE. 

Everything you have said on this page has been incorrect, misrepresenting and twisting reality to try to fit your square foot into a round shoe.  You're not making any sense and you're arguing against your own logic. 

Response to Raikaria's #233.

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I'm an idiot; of course Dan can't be SB's scumbuddy pulling a gambit; his initial role is un CC'ed and confirmed.

Yes, you are an idiot.  I have been saying Dan is town cleared since the start of the day.  You'll also note that you acknowledge that his role is uncounterclaimed, yet you'll later refuse to consider counter claims for why you should be voting BT. 

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Sky is panicking and making a case on me.

Nothing could be further from the truth.  I made a case on you based on things that you have actually said and things that you have actually done, in ways that are not made up or misrepresentative, which you have failed to do against me

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Frankly I saw so many things incorrect with the first few points alone that I gave up reading the rest of the walls but whatever:

Please reference the points you see instead of blanket statements like 'I saw so many things'.  Town will reference.  Scum will handwave, like earlier when you handwaved me by saying 'Sky's #176 gives suspect reasons for thinking Dorian is scum.'  What are those suspect reasons?  You were challenged and failed to respond.  You non-existent case is without merit and I am begging you to substantiate it in some way.  I feel that you can't. 

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Completely ignore the fact that SB's vote on me came after I voted him for awful logic [Which not only I pointed out]. He then voted for basically for my reaction to his awful logic. That IS the definition of OMGUS
 

Voting somebody for bad logic is not OMGUS.  The definitiion of OMGUS is when a player votes for another player because that player voted for the first player.  You are wrong. 

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Apply what happened with two players that are neither SB or me to SB and me. This logic is therefor invalid.
 

What logic and what happened with who and where?  It's impossible to understand what you are talking about.  In any case, the post was just a gathering of points for relationships between SB and other players.  There wasn't any case making contained within it. 

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If you actually read my D2 flip-flopping I say very frequently that I am alright with lynching either party.

I read it and saw you being happy to vote either party, and again today.  That is why I said you are very aggressive this game.  Is it not true?

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In addition; I am happy to lynch today because it is certain that one of you or BT are scum. It's that simple.  I'm happy to put you at L-1 because I know Dorian won't hammer; and I know Dan won't hammer; and I know you won't selfhammer.

Even if we do consider it as myself or BT (which it's not necessarily the case); you'll only vote me because you can't afford to let BT die or you'll be counterclaimed, yes? 
If you know Dorian, Dan and myself won't hammer, isn't your vote on me futile? 

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You say my role is less trustworthy than BT's? I say the opposite.

Naturally. 

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Firstly BT's claimed role hasn't actually done anything at all yet.

Neither has yours, so this point is without merit. 

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He claims he was jailed N1 and he got nothing at all N2. Watcher and even Voyuer seems a little strong in this setup as well; especially with SB being a vanillaiser; if he targeted Dan on an Even night or whoever Dan was watching on an Odd night he would be screwed.

'Watcher and even Voyuer seems a little strong in this setup as well' - will you now reconsider the counterclaims on roled town? 

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And that's assuming he also didn't target whoever Valtz was blocking. There seems to be too many ways to screw over scum. Even if Valtz was still alive if I roleblocked that wouldn't be a checkmate situation. I could have roleblocked the guy Valtz blocked; or the guy Valtz jailed could have been the kill target and so on.

Indeed.  Will you now reconsider the counterclaims on roled town? 

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Plus the fact that I actually have a role PM saying I'm a 1-shot roleblocker; makes me a lot more confident in the existance of my role than BT's.

It's your word versus his, so this point is meaningless. 

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Also don't kick up a stink about you posting more often than BT. Your posts had no content. BT's did.

I was referring to you and I'm happy to go through and argue each point.  I said that I had posted more than BT and more content than you, against your point that I am 'flying under the radar'.  You made a lot of statements that are factually incorrect in reference to me so I am highlighting those points for dissection.  You need to stick to the truth and reality. 

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And it's nice to see you actually doing something relevant at last when you are panicking about the noose. Typical scum reaction.

You're, again, ignoring day 2 and the fact I wasn't even in the game on day 1.  Stick to reality and avoid the time-wasting sniping comments. 

I'm eating dinner; more to come. 
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Sky_Paladin

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #241 on: July 22, 2014, 11:55:36 AM »
I'm sorry for saying you are an idiot, Raikaria.  It was uncalled for. 

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #242 on: July 22, 2014, 12:14:23 PM »
Raikaria; I want you to state your case against me, then compare it to your case on BT here

I want you to think to yourself - firstly, you have acknowledged that role and setup spec likely indicates BT is scum, yet refuse to vote on said setup and role spec.  Why? 

You town clear Doritaki for arguing with SB all of day 1, perhaps because you also argued with SB all of day 1 and hope other players will town clear you as well.  However, I remind you that only two games ago, Serela and I (both scum at the time) argued all of the game.  Arguing with players is not a town clear.  I also consider your early hammer of NNR as more than likely a scum attempt to save SB, who was a likely alternate lynch on day 1. 

I'm not asking you to consider Dan.  I also feel like I'm arguing with a scum player trying to convince them to admit to their scum.  I feel like you are forced to vote for me, because if BT is lynched, you'll be exposed due to too many town power roles in the game. 

I think we have too many town power roles in the game, and that means the scum has to be Raitaki or BT.  Out of the two, I think Raikaria is more likely. 

Dan, Doritaki, BT, it's about time you three did something, because I can't convince Raikaria to admit he's scum. 
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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #243 on: July 22, 2014, 01:12:09 PM »
Time for sleep. See you in a few hours.

Rai at the very least we both agree "...or BT." why can't we both vote there, the world wonders.
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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #244 on: July 22, 2014, 01:25:20 PM »
Ah, one last thought.

Doritaki has an id code, one of those r-??? things, so they technically arent class d personnel like NNR or myself. Maybe worth considering re: too many power roles.
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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #245 on: July 22, 2014, 06:13:25 PM »
I've been away. Kinda Graduated today.

Fine; fine. The order of occurance dosen't even matter. No need to bite my head off. I don't need to really even bother to make actual cases at this point; although I like to try. It's either you or it;s BT. That is a clear fact to me. I know I am town; and Dan is confirmed; and I highly; highly; highly doubt Dorian is scum.

I'll say that your response to being voted by me is a lot more... passionate and seems more scum-hunt happy than BT's reaction however.

Eh; fine; I'll vote BT first then. Ultimately it doesn't even matter. One of you two is scum unless some super gambit happened. Which I am willing to bet at this specifici point did not. I'd rather see the result of my roleblock N4 before I speculate on things that are significantly less likely. At this point I think BT has a mildly better chance of flipping scum than you do.

Although I'll point out; that most of my recent efforts have been simply attempting to see how you react to my attempt to get you lynched. Except I can't actually make a good case other than 'You're the only one left if BT flips Town'. Part of this is your general lack of content admittedly; but the other part is that nothing screams scum either. When I tested BT I actually was able to make more solid points because his content had noticeable flaws and he did back up SB somewhat [To what it seemed from my PoV]

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #246 on: July 22, 2014, 06:37:38 PM »
Sorry Sky bro, I'm pretty confident it's you.

Honestly, a compelling argument here is that you keep ignoring Dan completely from the get-go. Scum Dan faking being vanillized isn't out of the question, it's just unlikely when you weigh everything together (yes scum caffienator is weird but s-shut up). The people who'd have a clear "confirmed town" mindset are the people who ruled him out as a mislynch by "clearing" him via fakeclaim (it's scum).

Your posts tell me you're just trying to bring up as many points as possible to save your behind rather than finding scum. Your plans to lynch A to clear B don't tell me why you want to lynch Raikaria, they're just a means to direct the lynch elsewhere, correct lynch be damned. A lot of your points are like that. Sometimes you bring something up to incriminate me in a "why me and not him" way and you don't take it anywhere - why bring it up in the first place? Vote's still on Raikaria. It's not being taken anywhere because you're scum and your priorities lie elsewhere.

To answer one of your questions to me, you didn't do much on D2 besides react to some Dorian posts to solidify a vote on him, make it clear you're fine with lynching SB when the wagon went there instead, and here we are today. Where's that townie spirit? The day was looking to be a clear Raitaki/Dorian lynch so you wouldn't have to do much as scum, and you didn't.

I would have expected you to go into detail when it comes to Raikaria/SB interactions, because there's a lot of meat there. You're just passing it as scum distancing after mentioning it once or twice. It's not like you're head to head with Raikaria - Town You would have had a choice. It probably would have taken more analysis to vote Raikaria over me instead of saying "duh, distancing" as easy as you did here.

Uh, that's a resopnse to page 8. On page 9 I see Raikaria voting me again so I guess I'll just post this for now. >_>

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #247 on: July 22, 2014, 06:49:31 PM »
I think at this stage you are forced to vote for me because you know if BT dies and flips town, we will lynch you by POE. 
Yes, that's why Raikaria started this day by voting me. (sarcasm)

However, I remind you that only two games ago, Serela and I (both scum at the time) argued all of the game.  Arguing with players is not a town clear.
Seriously, this is extremely easy. You say this kind of thing and you can ignore ANY SCUM INTERACTION. You're not looking at the interaction in question. Sorry if I think you would have taken a closer look at this as town instead of using a weak meta excuse to your advantage.

Dan, Doritaki, BT, it's about time you three did something, because I can't convince Raikaria to admit he's scum. 
You're sure doing a lot to convince him to vote BT. Wonder why that is. >_>

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #248 on: July 22, 2014, 06:53:38 PM »
Eh; fine; I'll vote BT first then. Ultimately it doesn't even matter.
Seriously, this kind of attitude is the worst. You were around for Villains when I did this and we got Kyuubey'd.

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #249 on: July 22, 2014, 07:22:34 PM »
So, first conclusion from my skimming of the recent post, you guys have way too much free time.^^;

However,

@ Sky Paladin:
I see you putting much weight on claims and your PoE based on it but I think it is flawed. I mean you seem to acknowledge the fact that the Mod intended and balanced the hydra as a PR, yet you still consider my role as VT in all your considerations. So how about a 2xVT and (5xPR -2xScum) scenario?

Now to your Raikaria case:
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SB and Raikaria's arguments on day 1 were caused by scumbuddies trying to distance themselves from each other/arguing against each other's cases.
Maybe, but I think that I got a good impression from Scum Raikaria in my game and I recall that he were more cooperative with his buddys.
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Raikaria's aggressive behavior, willingness to vote and change votes frequently, as well as the early hammer in the previous phase, are evidence of scum intent.
Being aggressive isn't scummy on it's own nor is changing your vote and as unhappy I was over the NNR wagon, so can I still say that even I couldn't see a alternative to his lynch. So what's your point?
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Raikaria's case against me is entirely based on misrep and false or misleading statements.
That's funny, I could say the same about halve of your case against me.^^;

Also, your excuse that no one is around when you are on is noticed, on the same level as BTs excuse ?the day is stagnating So why should I do something?? at the end of day two.


@ Raikaria:
You ask for it, so here are some greetings from Vegas:
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We've got the game in the bag, except if Raikaria is somehow scum. I know he's our townread and I'm not saying he's suspicious or anything, but as our only way of losing the game, I'd say we should still double-check him before LyLo. Well it's either Raikaria is scum or we get ourselves lynched instead, but I think that would take actual effort at this point :V
ActionDan could technically fit the bill, though scum insomnator is pretty weird, and no one counterclaimed or flipped to the contrary yet, so.

Also, ask Sky_Pal why exactly he though one of us and Raikaria is scum. It sounds like "hey I haven't read anything yet but one of the people involved with SB must be scum <3" was basically his latest post.

If you ever change your mind about not hammering Sky_Pal, I'm cool with it. If you really think BT is scum then I won't stop you, since I still can't really read him.

And no, I haven't change my mind about not hammering Sky. I guess that my response to sky make it clear that I still see you as town but for the benefit of town, take your time, make up your mind and tell us clearly which lynch you prefer today.
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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #250 on: July 22, 2014, 07:29:02 PM »
Also, your excuse that no one is around when you are on is noticed, on the same level as BTs excuse ?the day is stagnating So why should I do something?? at the end of day two.
And no, I haven't change my mind about not hammering Sky. I guess that my response to sky make it clear that I still see you as town but for the benefit of town, take your time, make up your mind and tell us clearly which lynch you prefer today.
The tunnel is strong in this one. Tell me what you think about my latest posts, because I think I did a pretty good job outlining why Sky's string of posts are bad.

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #251 on: July 22, 2014, 07:31:22 PM »
Just to clarify, by "tunnel" I don't mean anything scummy, just that you're way too biased about me being scum that you're not seeing Sky being Scummy McObvscum here. The first quote is you putting words in my mouth when I was just stating the fact that stagnation made me post less. (something that happens in a lot of my town games, by the way)

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #252 on: July 22, 2014, 08:01:36 PM »
Kyuubey isn't in this game BT.

Part of me wants to say Sky attempting to divert the lynch onto me is a desperate attempt to avoid the 1v1 scenario that currently exists; as even if I get mislynched today; it's still Sky vs BT tomorrow anyway. Which would certainly result in a town victory; but the other part says he's legitimately scumhunting; even if he's wrong.

Sky; I'm not getting lynched today. Dorian townreads me; as does Actiondan. It's impossible to get a majority on me with the current situation with the confirmed and semi-confirmed townies both of the opinion I am town. [And given how much SB tried to get me lynched and how much I tried to lynch SB D1; and said repeatedly even though I spent most of D2 attempting to lynch Dorian that if Dorian flipped town; I'd lynch Sky next; I'd say I'm pretty clear by interactions].

Your only chance to survive to at least try and fight your corner tomorrow is try and get BT lynched. Then's the time to fight your corner and try and somehow get a lynch on myself or Dorian. Provided BT isn't the scum and the game dosen't end then and there. Which there is a good chance of happening.


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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #253 on: July 22, 2014, 08:07:35 PM »
Do you really think he's "legitimately scumhunting" when he has more or less handwaved all of your interactions with SB? That's not just "wrong", and Sky's not that bad at this game.

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #254 on: July 22, 2014, 08:12:48 PM »
Do you really think he's "legitimately scumhunting" when he has more or less handwaved all of your interactions with SB? That's not just "wrong", and Sky's not that bad at this game.

It's an existent chance.

You know what? I'm gonna stop flopping. Instead; I'm going to let you two argue with each other; and not me; as you should. Convince the other three of us. I'm just getting confused; seeing as I'm the man in the middle of this 1v1. I'm the v. I'm going to step out of your little 1v1; for a while; at least. I need to think which of you two to lynch first; I'd rather the game end tonight after all, not to mention I want to give Dorian and Dan time to input without L-1 pressure.

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #255 on: July 22, 2014, 08:18:38 PM »
I'll get to this tonight probably.  man is there a lot.

I do think Dorian is  town at least.  for now.

Don't lynch me.

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #256 on: July 22, 2014, 08:49:42 PM »
The tunnel is strong in this one. Tell me what you think about my latest posts, because I think I did a pretty good job outlining why Sky's string of posts are bad.
As I said it was it meant as ?not hammering Sky right now?. And to come to your question, I actually agree with most of your points. Maybe aside from the point about Dan or do you have a reason to think that SB would have aimed for Rafa?
Also, I cleared that guy, still even I recall enough to make a better case on Raikaria. But there are things about Skys approach that makes me wonder, wouldn't he pick a suspect whos lynch has more support than someone cleared by everyone else? Maybe someone like you?
I can assure you that I try my best to stay open minded but I have currently a hard time staying focused.^^;
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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #257 on: July 22, 2014, 08:53:25 PM »
I'll get to this tonight probably.  man is there a lot.

I do think Dorian is  town at least.  for now.
That is nice to know, now who do you think is scum?
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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #258 on: July 22, 2014, 09:03:02 PM »
As I said it was it meant as ?not hammering Sky right now?. And to come to your question, I actually agree with most of your points. Maybe aside from the point about Dan or do you have a reason to think that SB would have aimed for Rafa?
I think there's a tiny nuance that got my attention there - I mean, yeah, I think Dan is obviously town, but I don't think he's "confirmed town". Raikaria said that too, but there's a difference (he started off mentioning the gambit option and went for the codeword "confirmed" because his opinion changed directly because Dan's role as Coffienator is more or less confirmed).

Also, I cleared that guy, still even I recall enough to make a better case on Raikaria. But there are things about Skys approach that makes me wonder, wouldn't he pick a suspect whos lynch has more support than someone cleared by everyone else? Maybe someone like you?
I wondered about that too, but sometimes you just do that as scum - avoid an existing 1v1 to try and open things up. He could have just voted me and pushed for a hammer, but then he would probably get lynched on the spot the next day.

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #259 on: July 22, 2014, 09:16:14 PM »
Addendum: If Sky's scum, leaving Raikaria around to block him at night is signing his own death warrant.

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #260 on: July 22, 2014, 09:34:09 PM »
I think there's a tiny nuance that got my attention there - I mean, yeah, I think Dan is obviously town, but I don't think he's "confirmed town". Raikaria said that too, but there's a difference (he started off mentioning the gambit option and went for the codeword "confirmed" because his opinion changed directly because Dan's role as Coffienator is more or less confirmed).
It would explain what took Dan so long to make his case but lets not get carried away here, I don't think SB would pass on using his role, which means that Dan would risk to be CCed by the one SB really hit. Unless they hit Rafa ?knowing that he were VT? to begin with, which is just plain silly.

I wondered about that too, but sometimes you just do that as scum - avoid an existing 1v1 to try and open things up. He could have just voted me and pushed for a hammer, but then he would probably get lynched on the spot the next day.
You mean in the same way you are trying to cast doubts on Dan right now? Na, my most  recent experiences told me that you are too forced to deal with the matter at hand to plan that far ahead.
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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #261 on: July 22, 2014, 10:05:04 PM »
Of course I'm not trying to case doubts on Dan. That was for the sake of argument... oh, whatever.

Is it really that far ahead? The scumteam had since Raikaria claimed to think about the implications.

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #262 on: July 22, 2014, 11:50:05 PM »
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Kinda Graduated today.
 

Mafia to the side for a second - wow dude, congratulations! 

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I don't need to really even bother to make actual cases at this point; although I like to try.

I implore you to try, because even if you 'know' it's BT or myself, you still need to persuade Dorian, Dan (and BT). 

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Honestly, a compelling argument here is that you keep ignoring Dan completely from the get-go. Scum Dan faking being vanillized isn't out of the question, it's just unlikely when you weigh everything together (yes scum caffienator is weird but s-shut up). The people who'd have a clear "confirmed town" mindset are the people who ruled him out as a mislynch by "clearing" him via fakeclaim (it's scum).

Dan is confirmed town because he served us SB on a plate when scums weren't really in a position where they had to pull off this kind of gambit for a win.  It is possible that it was a gambing and if that's what happened Dan will probably win because of it, and grats to them for acting on a gutsy strategy. 

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Your posts tell me you're just trying to bring up as many points as possible to save your behind rather than finding scum. Your plans to lynch A to clear B don't tell me why you want to lynch Raikaria, they're just a means to direct the lynch elsewhere, correct lynch be damned.

I want to lynch Raikaria (or you) because I believe we have too many town power roles, so I believe you and Raikaria are counter-claiming one another.  I want to lynch Raikaria because I felt that his role seemed the least plausible in this setup. 

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A lot of your points are like that.
 

Can you please show examples instead of handwaving 'a lot of your points'. 

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Sometimes you bring something up to incriminate me in a "why me and not him" way and you don't take it anywhere - why bring it up in the first place?

I wanted Raikaria to reflect on his own words/actions and to consider that things he 'knew' were not actually concrete. 

Doritaki
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I mean you seem to acknowledge the fact that the Mod intended and balanced the hydra as a PR, yet you still consider my role as VT in all your considerations. So how about a 2xVT and (5xPR -2xScum) scenario?

Honestly I don't know how to place a hydra in the balance.  I considered you vanilla because for all actual game purposes you are vanilla, if you are 'just' a hydra.  If we have 2xVT and 5xPR and 2x scum that's 9 players, though, so we know (again) that there's either one too many vanilla claims, or one too many power role claims.  We'd be lynching (Sky) or (Dorian or BT or Raitaki). 

I'm the guy who came up with the casino man fake claim.  If I need to fake claim I can fake claim way better than vanilla.  Unless I'm towny and I am telling the truth. 

BT again
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Addendum: If Sky's scum, leaving Raikaria around to block him at night is signing his own death warrant.

This is a great argument for lynching BT.  I am happy to lynch BT so that Raikaria can use his roleblock on me and give me a town clear when we wake up to three player LYLO tomorrow. 

##unvote
##vote BT


Keep in mind that this is in line with me saying that we have too many town power roles.  I'm happy with a lynch of BT *or Raikaria*.  However, it's hard to find a better suggestion than the one BT just made. 
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ActionDan

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #263 on: July 23, 2014, 05:48:17 AM »
I know I promised ... but ah..  .

Don't lynch me.

Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #264 on: July 23, 2014, 09:58:43 AM »
Making Votecounts is suffering (2)

Sky_Paladin:  BT
BT: Sky_Paladin

Not voting: everyone else
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If Dan doesn't post actual content I'll get a replacement for his slot by the end of the day.

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #265 on: July 23, 2014, 10:39:57 AM »
At this point I don't have too much to say except that the points BT and Dorian have made about Sky Paladin pushing me to try and avoid a sure-death scenario seems valid; but likewise; as Sky said, my roleblock is a very powerful tool for potentially clearing someone tonight. Provided it's not messed with by the remaining scum's own role; of course.

This is pretty much why I do't care too much if we lynch BT or Sky in the grand scheme of things. Right now I'm leaning towards a BT lynch; but only slightly and because that's why my gut is saying.


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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #266 on: July 23, 2014, 10:53:11 AM »
At this point I don't have too much to say except that the points BT and Dorian have made about Sky Paladin pushing me to try and avoid a sure-death scenario seems valid; but likewise; as Sky said, my roleblock is a very powerful tool for potentially clearing someone tonight. Provided it's not messed with by the remaining scum's own role; of course.

This is pretty much why I do't care too much if we lynch BT or Sky in the grand scheme of things. Right now I'm leaning towards a BT lynch; but only slightly and because that's why my gut is saying.
v_v

BT

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #267 on: July 23, 2014, 11:01:55 AM »
Guy. Your "gut" as far as I can tell originates from some SB defenses that... weren't actually SB defenses. I came into D2 thinking SB is scum over Doritaki. My line about SB's claim after Dan's SB case was meant to show that I think there's something fishy there too, just not a slam dunk. It's "a defense" in the barest sense, and if you're that inclined to be influenced by that kind of thing, go see how SB has more or less ignored Refa/Sky barring RVS and meta comments, and how Sky gave the SB wagon a second thought only when it was going through. Plain ignorance proves to be a more common interaction than defending or distancing in these scenarios - you have no reason to talk about your scumbuddy, so you don't. I say this from plenty of experience.

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #268 on: July 23, 2014, 11:07:42 AM »
Actually my gut now comes from my suspicion about the number of power roles currently in the game; and the fact that despite being active every day; yours has failed to achieve anything. While I do not think there is a conclusive thing about power role numbers in this game; I do suspect there might be too many. It depends how the Hydra counted for setup balancing purposes.

Also; I can't help but shake noticing that the majority of power roles in this game were shot limited. Dan claims 3 shots. I'm 1 shot. Even SB was one-shot. That said; Valtz had no shot limit; so again; this isn't conclusive.

Also Sky seems to be open to being roleblocked by me N3.

Anyway; no need to over-react. I said it's a very slight gut feeling. Gut can change. I just felt like giving my opinion at the current time; because I want to contribute something; however small.



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Those two facts sum me up pretty well.

BT

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Re: SCP Containment Breach Mafia - Day 3
« Reply #269 on: July 23, 2014, 11:23:44 AM »
Well, notice that SB could turn someone into a one-shot from that night on. That would affect Vhaltz, Dan and myself. Also notice that it might render the game very power-role-less, like what happened in this game - I had literally no known action to voyeur on N2, so I got nothing. As for N1, Vhaltz kind of suspected me but kind of agreed with my opinions on N1, so doccing and blocking me was appealing, is how I see it. Sky being open to roleblocking is, well, expected, because what else would he say?