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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1110 on: July 01, 2011, 09:05:40 AM »
That should be a ::::). Stop ruining my Vriska emotes, SMF.

Also. I'm realizing that some people might be giving me weird looks for thinking this is starting to come down to UK/HW vs Bard/Dormio, but that's certainly the direction this day has apparently been going in so far. Despite Hourai's claims that he's not thinking about buddies, it's fairly evident that his Bard case linked Bard to Dormio, so I'm under the impression that he has to an extent mentally considered a Bard/Dormio scumpairing.

9th post in a row. Hooray.

Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1111 on: July 01, 2011, 09:06:44 AM »
Also. I want Bard to give the best response he can to just about all of my recent posts that may actually have something he finds worth responding to, for private reasons.

Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1112 on: July 01, 2011, 09:09:59 AM »
Fuck. This isn't game-related, but I just realized that I completely misunderstood the Dormio/UK exchange that I mistook as being passive-aggressive.

Welp. Never mind about that. Sorry. :<

Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1113 on: July 01, 2011, 09:22:54 AM »
Sucks being the only townie online.
No, seriously, I can't tell if Dormio is doing other things, has absolutely nothing to say to my recent posts even though I'm one of top suspects, or if he took lessons on how to avoid posting in Mafia threads while reading them late at night from our dearly departed Scum Recruiter Godfather. <_<

Dormio, if you're reading this, I want an opinion on my alternate No Lynch suggestion.

Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1114 on: July 01, 2011, 09:29:57 AM »
HI IT'S 2:30 AM AND I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN MAKE GIANT POST COMBOS WHILE RE-READING THE PAST FEW PAGES CONSTANTLY.

Has anybody noticed that Dormio seems to support UK/HW, yet believes UK is recruit scum?

Dormio, what makes you think Schezo was willing to tunnel and park his vote on his scumbuddy since earlygame?

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1115 on: July 01, 2011, 12:17:51 PM »
Also. I want Bard to give the best response he can to just about all of my recent posts that may actually have something he finds worth responding to, for private reasons.

Actually, if you're certain I'm scum, you might want to explain what "best response" is.

Let's be honest here guys. Are you convinced I'm scum and is there anything I can do to change that, or might I just as well surrender, because I've made my case on UK and no one likes it? ┐(-。ー; )┌ Claiming I wouldn't be killed is, of course, to get scum to NK someone else because I know for a fact that I am Renko Usami, Vanilla Townie, and I have no idea what any of you guys are.

So far the cases against me have seemed to be based on that I wanted Chaore to be quicklynched at some point, which is a false issue as I merely wanted him lynched and put to L-1, which I actually held off of for a while for fear of him hammering himself if he were scum. That this seems to be a cornerstone of the "Bardiche is scum" argument baffles me because it's not profitable to scum to quicklynch in any way short of stimulating more discussion on the next day, and for someone like Huh What it took way too long to produce any reads on Chaore.

Blatant stalling of the game and opposition to lynching Chaore by way of "omg quicklynch = bad i must has reads in" reads a lot worse to me than "fuckit, let's lynches the chaorz alreddi", but we have differing views here.

So, let's throw it down. Is there any way I can convince you guys of a UK scum, or are you sold on your pick already?


Responses to HW in seperate posts since he wants them so much.

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1116 on: July 01, 2011, 12:26:22 PM »
No, seriously, I can't tell if Dormio is doing other things, has absolutely nothing to say to my recent posts even though I'm one of top suspects, or if he took lessons on how to avoid posting in Mafia threads while reading them late at night from our dearly departed Scum Recruiter Godfather. <_<
Hi, I'm tired.

Dormio, if you're reading this, I want an opinion on my alternate No Lynch suggestion.
Lynching me today and no lynching tomorrow is a terrible idea.
Because lynching me today will mean that there is no tomorrow.

I would appreciate it if everybody who supports one of UK/HW and Bard/Dormio to comment on whether or not they think UK/Dormio is possible.
Bard/Dormio and UK/Dormio scumpairs are both impossible, because I'm aligned with town.

Has anybody noticed that Dormio seems to support UK/HW, yet believes UK is recruit scum?
What about this?

Dormio, what makes you think Schezo was willing to tunnel and park his vote on his scumbuddy since earlygame?
Why the hell not?
Bussing cred for whichever party survives?

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RENKO!!!
How did you end up here, too?
Are you okay? Did you run into anything weird?
I told you this world existed!
Renkoooooooooooooooo, I missed you.
Renkoooooooooooooooo, maybe I could bear to stay in this world if I'm here with you!
Renko, let's get through this and spend the rest of our days together, here in Gensokyo!

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1117 on: July 01, 2011, 12:28:35 PM »
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A quick check through the thread has not made me any more interested in scum candidates aside from Dormio and Bard as is.

I think this is lazy because you're just going after the two most popular wagons at the moment, both propelled by UK. Now what I find more interesting is that you never explained why I was scum, because you wrote this on the subject matter:

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There's still that Bard case I was in the middle of writing up, but this sticks out to me a lot more now that I've noticed it. I do intend to finish my Bard case, but would like opinions on this first.
Your only reference to the case is that Conq wrote it, which shows no original thoughts from your side on how I am scum. Do you understand why I think you're scum for claiming your case on me is very real when it doesn't really exist?

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It bugs me a little that Bard never claimed his role name.

I claimed Vanilla Townie. Unfortunately, unlike the rest of you guys, I know absolutely nothing of Touhou, and I have not considered there to be any importance to my character name. If there is, I would prefer mods note it in the thread beforehand. How is this "bugging" you?

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It also feels like Dormio has been trying really hard to tie himself to Bardiche lately.

This is the feeling I got with UK when she voted along with Lambda, or started justifying votes by GUT!! rather than case which I did for a while. Regretably she seems to pull this off a lot less scummy than I can, which is baffling. :U

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In all honesty, though, I'm not 100% sold on Dormio/Bard at all.

Stop waffling on me. You keep going from BARD IS SCUM to BARD IS TOWN to BARD IS SCUM. Now decide. Am I scum or am I town to you, and if I am the latter then why is UK absolutely not scum?

In fact, all of you. Explain. Why is UK not scum?

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I brought up any new complaints I had about you and Bard in my post, but otherwise I think my cases on you and Bard have accumulated over my posts, and it's pretty easy to acknowledge their existance. I don't see why I should have to write something that has already been written. It's just extra noise.

I think asking people to dig through your posts to ultimately arrive at "I'll write a case on Bard later" and forcing them to piece together stuff written within a certain timeframe which may no longer apply is much more noise. State your case.






DORMIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Let's ditch these losers, they're all stoked on their "zomg Dormio x Bard" anyway that they don't even want to consider why our push on UK is wrong!

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1118 on: July 01, 2011, 12:33:07 PM »
Also it's kinda frustrating Conq and Hourai continue lurking even now. What, do you want us to fight it out so there's no way we can consider you two scum anymore?

HEY, HEY, UK, DORMIO, HW, LET'S LAL!

Bardiche

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1119 on: July 01, 2011, 12:33:55 PM »
But no, seriously, why is MotK always lurking? What is this? If neither of you two are scum I will be so incredibly frustrated with you.

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1120 on: July 01, 2011, 12:40:53 PM »
I dunno, Conqueror promised us ISO reads like ten hours ago.
Hanged Hourai has been missing like all game. :V
However, unfortunately, I'm inclined to believe that both of them are town. :/

DORMIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Let's ditch these losers, they're all stoked on their "zomg Dormio x Bard" anyway that they don't even want to consider why our push on UK is wrong!
Renkooooooooooooo!
Once we get out of this mess, let's explore this place together!
This is what we've always been looking for, right?
I don't need to go back, not as long as you're here with me!
Once this is over, we can live together here in Gensokyo, it's much better than where we came from isn't it?

Bardiche

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1121 on: July 01, 2011, 12:48:41 PM »
Yeah, I think they're town too, just being lurktown.

I don't want to be in Gensokyo, fugging Touhou. D:

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1122 on: July 01, 2011, 12:51:40 PM »
Well, I can't change how you feel, Renko...
If you don't want to stay here, I'll look for a way back home with you.
Because I don't think I could live without you.



In other words, Conqueror and Hourai, posting is a thing would be something that is much appreciated.

Bardiche

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1123 on: July 01, 2011, 01:02:18 PM »
Well, I can't change how you feel, Renko...
If you don't want to stay here, I'll look for a way back home with you.
Because I don't think I could live without you.

You're truly my light in this darkness. Let's elope! We'll have none more of this! Look towards the east, and we'll escape west.

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1124 on: July 01, 2011, 01:05:03 PM »
Let's elope!
I...
This is so sudden, Renko...
And we're both girls...
But... If it's you...

Bardiche

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1125 on: July 01, 2011, 01:06:51 PM »
( ^_^)o自自o(^_^ )

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1126 on: July 01, 2011, 01:14:32 PM »
ಠ_ಠ

Votecount

UncertainKitten (1) - Dormio

Not voting: Everyone else

6 alive, 4 to lynch.  Have, uh, 40 hours or something remaining.

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1127 on: July 01, 2011, 02:54:41 PM »
I dunno, Conqueror promised us ISO reads like ten hours ago.

I went to sleep because the words were starting to blend. :V

Will post when I get back from errands in an hour.


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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1128 on: July 01, 2011, 04:42:05 PM »
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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1129 on: July 01, 2011, 05:28:28 PM »
Alright, so after thinking this through, let's take a new approach.

It's been over 24 hours since the day began. There have been no posts from Hourai and Conqueror that had any relevance to the game so far. Now then, postulate all you will, and go haet on me later, but if you look at the previous day we had a lot of active lurking from a lot of parties. Posting lots, saying little, doing little. Now, this may be far-fetched, but I'm going to propose that only one of Dormio, Bardiche, Huh What and UK can be scum.

I know that Dormio AND I are town, so therefore either HW or UK is scum, but likely not both. The other scum must be one of our lurkers, Conqueror or Hanged Hourai.

So far I've felt pretty good about Hourai's contributions, so I intend to re-read UK, HW and Conqueror, the three of them. ConqKitten, that is. The thing with Conq is that I forget he's even playing, and I want to make sure his contributions were valuable and worthwhile.

For that reason, I am going to drop my case on UK for now. It is obvious people do not agree with my assessment, so I will have to re-assess. For now, I'd like to ask everyone to re-read every player and tally up why they would be scum so we can earnestly dissect why we are not scum and whether we agree with cases on eachother, because obviously slinging with UK isn't going to help much when I fiercely disagree with the case on myself, and find the case on UK the best thing ever.

Obviously I only have Dormio agreeing with me, of who I am convinced that he is town, but this isn't enough to tied over MyLo/LyLo. There is not a shadow of doubt in my mind that my raburii darling could be scum.

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1130 on: July 01, 2011, 05:32:35 PM »
Posting takes longer than you think it does. >_>
I'd really like it if you guys would WAIT FOR ME TO POST GOD.

A quick question for Bardiche though: why the defense of Dormio? What makes you so sure he's town?


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
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Bardiche

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1131 on: July 01, 2011, 05:33:50 PM »
Because Dormio is my bro, and I can tell when my bro is scum. Right now he is not scum, I am convinced of this.

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1132 on: July 01, 2011, 05:36:21 PM »
That's really no better than UK's GUT cases. Any particular reason you want to share though?

Also, I'm Yumemi Okazaki, Vanilla Townie and human. Hourai is last I think if he hasn't already claimed.


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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1133 on: July 01, 2011, 06:06:37 PM »
Well, you see, Bard was SUPPOSED to pick who claimed next, and it's honestly irritating he didn't, DESPITE ME ASKING HIM TO.

There was a reason for that. But, with only one claimant left, I'll divulge after this question is answered. What claiming position would be most advantageous for scum to have, in your opinion?

Everyone ever needs to answer that. I'll answer last since I don't want to spoil the results.

Secondly, HW, I'll support a Dormio lynch if I can't get my Bard lynch. It's just I feel that Bard has more awful behind him, seeing as how he's had two more days of it. Either of them can hang though.

As for the observations on The Disappearance of Conquerer Houraimiya, that bugs the hell out of me. I'm going to reread both of them at some point after I actually get off work today. That said, Hourai HAS contributed more than Conquerer, since Hourai has at least said who's scum and provided some reasoning why. Could you be a dear and do that yourself, Conquerer4U?



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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1134 on: July 01, 2011, 06:16:18 PM »
Part 1 of 5

BARDICHE ISO:

Let's start from the top.

The game starts with the fake vig in the confirmation phrase, as we all know. Bardiche has ended RVS as both town and scum, so the gesture itself is a null tell. Now, considering how demotivating this "vig shot" was to Shadoweh (a demotivation that seems to have stuck with her well throughout the early game), what with Bard's "justification" of the vig shot and all that jazz, I've considered if scum!Bard may have deliberately conjured up the vig shot for this express purpose, but unfortunately I can't read Bard's mind so I don't know what the hell he was thinking. I'm going to have to consider this whole episode a null tell. The snipes on other people during this period were basically gotcha games, but considering this was pre-ED1, Bard gets somewhat of a pass for actually trying to make cases.

After that comes the interesting bit. There's a short detour to Kiro, but then Bardiche elegantly points out a disconnect in Schezo's posting, only to vote LLD for a post which seems, at worst, more derp than scummy. The vote itself seems nitpicky and based on issues with wording in LLD's post; a questionable method of scumhunting, to say the least.

This post is pretty waffly concerning Kiro and LLD. Well, at least he admits it! LLD is "weird" and apparently Bard's vote is supposed to be some sort of a prod vote for opinions rather than a vote from scumminess? In the end LLD completely collapses and the wagon falls through.

On day 2, there's a bizarre jump off of PX when he had been pushing PX earlier. Looks like an attempt to distance from a town wagon; suddenly Bard concludes that PX's posts on D1 were town-motivated, when his earlier posts had indicated nothing of the sort.

I've already talked about Day 3. The stated reasons for grilling Chaore and Shadoweh were mainly because of the last minute wagon switches, and in the end Bardiche didn't even vote Chaore. The attack on Chaore feels like it stems from a manufactured reason, even if the target turned out to be correct.

Day 4 has Bardiche sitting around saying "No opinions, sorry. (?∀`)" UK suddenly jumps up to top scum read here. What was new other than the fact that people had started looking more closely at her?

Day 5 is when Bard produces his magical opinions on everybody. Well, actually, just UK. Bardiche, do you think that UK is original or recruit scum? Also, we waited two game days for your cases; is this all? Oh wait, that's not all. Bardiche has a clear on Dormio for no reason at all. He's either whiteknighting or defending a scum buddy. Either way, he's not town.

So remember me saying scum can't kill me? It's because I'm Vanilla Town~!, and because I was posting minimalistically on D3/4 and am a good target for a mislynch! :D
I don't like it when people label themselves as scum's favorite mislynch. It reeks too much of...what's the word? Keikaku Doori? Anyway, remember what you said to Shadoweh? (I think it was you, right?) Yeah.

Moreover, I steered clear of it because it was A) an evident popular wagon and B) I thought it would be useful to discuss more first, but I was obviously terribly wrong because MotK town rolls over and waits for the sweet salvation of death when they have scum. :U
Several things to note here. First of all, steering clear of a "popular wagon" is a great reason not to vote for a scumbuddy. As for the second part, either you don't practice what you preach or you're just BSing. You can't have forgotten the last two days that quickly, can you?

Which is why I want the lurkers (I know Chaore has read this!) to unlurk and treat this game as if it has already begun and start coming in with observations and opinions. No reason to abstain from contributing immediately.
This is interesting in retrospect, but I don't know if it's important or not.


Verdict: Bardiche is scum, probably original scum.


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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1135 on: July 01, 2011, 06:20:49 PM »
Next 4 coming up.

Also, I'm going to be really irritated if people are going to attack me for my inactivity, which stems from out-of-game reasons and is basically indefensible. >_>

Re: the question, it's better for scum to claim last, clearly.


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1136 on: July 01, 2011, 06:41:36 PM »
I know that Dormio AND I are town.
I somehow missed this. Add this as evidence in my Bard post.


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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1137 on: July 01, 2011, 06:54:24 PM »
I'm just going to take this apart.

The game starts with the fake vig in the confirmation phrase, as we all know. Bardiche has ended RVS as both town and scum, so the gesture itself is a null tell. Now, considering how demotivating this "vig shot" was to Shadoweh (a demotivation that seems to have stuck with her well throughout the early game), what with Bard's "justification" of the vig shot and all that jazz, I've considered if scum!Bard may have deliberately conjured up the vig shot for this express purpose, but unfortunately I can't read Bard's mind so I don't know what the hell he was thinking. I'm going to have to consider this whole episode a null tell. The snipes on other people during this period were basically gotcha games, but considering this was pre-ED1, Bard gets somewhat of a pass for actually trying to make cases.

I read this as, "This entire paragraph is meaningless". What exactly are you holding against me here other than that you think I get a pass for making cases?

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After that comes the interesting bit. There's a short detour to Kiro, but then Bardiche elegantly points out a disconnect in Schezo's posting, only to vote LLD for a post which seems, at worst, more derp than scummy. The vote itself seems nitpicky and based on issues with wording in LLD's post; a questionable method of scumhunting, to say the least.

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Lambda, please restate your logic on why both Shadoweh and I are scum, or at the very least on why I am scum. You're voting me despite saying you won't vote over a vig shot, that vig shot is now ~*fake*~. I don't like your logic of how I am scum if I am really a dayvig, and how Shadoweh is town if I am, BUT if Shadoweh isn't dead then she is surely scum, and if she flips scum then so am I.

What is nitpicky about this? "Your case smells of bullshit and doesn't make sense" is too nitpicky? What issue is there with the wording in her post, other than the issue of there being too few words explaining her logic?

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This post is pretty waffly concerning Kiro and LLD. Well, at least he admits it! LLD is "weird" and apparently Bard's vote is supposed to be some sort of a prod vote for opinions rather than a vote from scumminess? In the end LLD completely collapses and the wagon falls through.

This is a report, and while it is nice it serves nothing. I opened the vote on her with the quote above, and as you can see it directly asks for her to clarify her logic because I did not like it at that point. How exactly does the consistency indict me as scum? And how am I waffly between Kiro and Lambda, when I quite clearly listed my rea-- oh, you're attacking me due to refusing to let emotions get the better of me. Wow, that's low. :S

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On day 2, there's a bizarre jump off of PX when he had been pushing PX earlier. Looks like an attempt to distance from a town wagon; suddenly Bard concludes that PX's posts on D1 were town-motivated, when his earlier posts had indicated nothing of the sort.

Obviously I was saying it felt like Lambdadelta's ordeal again where we were lynching someone for being inelegant in answering. But hey, congrats, you have me there: I never indicated I felt PX was DURN TOWNIE. I don't think that's enough to decisively say I am scum, because staying on him would've been safer than try an end-of-day wagon swing-around.

[qote]I've already talked about Day 3. The stated reasons for grilling Chaore and Shadoweh were mainly because of the last minute wagon switches, and in the end Bardiche didn't even vote Chaore. The attack on Chaore feels like it stems from a manufactured reason, even if the target turned out to be correct.[/quote]

I opened the day by voting Chaore, I do believe, and jumped off him to discuss other things as I said. Then Chaore claimed scum and I have a habit of not trusting people who claim scum because they might be ragequitting. I jumped back on him when it looked certain that no one was going to look at anything else, and because people were not doing anything else either. How was the attack on Chaore manufactured, when it was pretty much for pulling an anti-town move in negating a wagon based on the naive idea that scum would leave a claimed Watcher alone if he were really town? You'll have to back up your claims here: what is manufactured?

Also, why are you misrepresenting again? I voted him, even before he claimed scum.

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Day 4 has Bardiche sitting around saying "No opinions, sorry. (?∀`)" UK suddenly jumps up to top scum read here. What was new other than the fact that people had started looking more closely at her?

Read the first line of that post, then come back.

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Day 5 is when Bard produces his magical opinions on everybody. Well, actually, just UK. Bardiche, do you think that UK is original or recruit scum? Also, we waited two game days for your cases; is this all? Oh wait, that's not all. Bardiche has a clear on Dormio for no reason at all. He's either whiteknighting or defending a scum buddy. Either way, he's not town.

It's MyLo and you want me to make cases on more than just who I think is the most scum. Ooo... kay. So why is it impossible that I know Dormio to be town with me?

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I don't like it when people label themselves as scum's favorite mislynch. It reeks too much of...what's the word? Keikaku Doori? Anyway, remember what you said to Shadoweh? (I think it was you, right?) Yeah.

Because it was keikaku doori? What else would I pull something I knew would be seen as scummy even though people cannot motivate it well?

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Several things to note here. First of all, steering clear of a "popular wagon" is a great reason not to vote for a scumbuddy.

It's also what I do each game. Are you implying I've spent each game as town avoiding jumping mindlessly on popular wagons just to use it as a reason not to bus a buddy? Do you honestly think I wouldn't bus a buddy?

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As for the second part, either you don't practice what you preach or you're just BSing. You can't have forgotten the last two days that quickly, can you?

Where I tried to discuss other things, ran into a wall of "let's focus only on Chaore!!" and "TOWNIE VOTING BLOCK!!", then gave up and decided to just roll with a new plan? No, I haven't forgotten the past two days. What exactly is scummy about giving up on discussing with town when they're obviously too stoked on a lynch?

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This is interesting in retrospect, but I don't know if it's important or not.

Then why raise it? "Here guys these are things, FIGURE OUT IF THEY ARE SCUMMY FOR ME THX"?


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Verdict: Bardiche is scum, probably original scum.

Cool, now for the actual motivation of why this is so. ┐( ?∀? )┌ Jumping on the easiest case out there immediately doesn't really endear you to me, given you'd have to be blind not to realise you'd have HW and UK support if you pushed a Bard case. Now that it's actually pretty bad, I have to wonder if you're not the last scum I'm looking for among them lurkers.




Cut by scum. Evidence of what? That Dormio and I are town?

Bardiche

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1138 on: July 01, 2011, 06:59:53 PM »
To summarise Conq's case as I see it:

Bard did something in the pre-game which is null, and a pass for trying to make cases. There is no argument of why I am scum here.

Bard voted Lambda, with a questionable method of scumhunting. This is a playstyle argument.

I am misrepresenting stuff. This is obviously not an argument on why I am scummy.

Bard jumped off PX. There is no indication from him whether this is scummy, so it's an observation and report, not an argument.

I am misrepresenting more stuff. Again, no argument.

Bardiche thinks UK is scummy out of nowhere. I don't understand how it's scummy to think someone's scummy.

Bardiche makes a case on UK and thinks Dormio is town. This is also not scummy as far as I am aware.

So Conq's case on me falls down to "Bardiche is scummy because".

Conqueror

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Re: Night of the Vampire Mafia: Day 5 MyLo
« Reply #1139 on: July 01, 2011, 07:05:33 PM »
Bardiche, if I pointed it out, I obviously think it's scummy. Are you seriously saying my case is invalid because I didn't add "this is scummy" to the end of each of my points? Just a quick question before I take apart your "taking apart."

Bard calls himself the "easy case", rofl. Don't make me laugh.


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