Daiyousei Quest - Greater Fairy: Part 23

[Kilgamayan]

2:

> How're things?

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SenDai:

> Beat.

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YamaBug:

> Check in.

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X:

> Check in.

[Neovereign]

Collective:
>Is our faith still growing?
>Can we still tell who we're getting faith from?
>Has our faith changed in capacity at all?

> Yes.
> Yes.
> Yes.

Scavenger B:
>"So all that wood was just bait?"

Prime:
>"Hang on a sec, I need to check something"
>Create a snowball in our hand with Cirno magic.
>Attempt to use a miracle, (using Sanae Magic and Faith) to change it into a shape where the faces are all triangles.

Secunde:
>Look concerned.

RuuDai:
>Continue to watch movie.

Secunde:

> "How I could not worry? I know that you are worried... but when you are like this, you just worry me even so more..."

> Furi nods

> You create a snowball and attempt a faith based miracle.
> It doesn't work.

> Gasanae ignores your question, heading back up the mountain.
> "My my, where did you come from?" Hina asks.

> You continue watching the movie.

ShinDai:

> "Huh... You know, maybe if I hit you with the mallet you might pop out an idea!"
> Smirk playfully.

> "Hey, don't underestimate my powers." SeiDai says.

2:

> How're things?

> You're still going. Hamiya hasn't told you to stop yet... You're not sure if she could though. Well, she probably could mentally.

SenDai:

> Beat.

> ......I don't remember much about it. Virtue sighs, stopping. It seems like something possibly worrying.

YamaBug:

> Check in.

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X:

> Check in.

> Yamame and the others are sitting down now.
> "She's uh.... alright." Yamame says.
> Yuugi shrugs.

> Flora has gone to sleep.
>_

[Evil_Nazgul0616]

Secunde:
>Start following.
>"You... You've made it impossible for me to do miracles..."
>Look heartbroken.
>"Onee-chan... you've killed me..."

Scavenger B:
>"Well um... I'd hate to burst your bubble, but I have to admit that the prank wouldn't have worked on me either way... If I was going to take the wood, I wouldn't need to touch it. Or get near it... Ehe~"

[Tashi]

//Well, dammit.

ShinDai:

> "Ahaha, just kidding..."

*-*-*

Secunde:

> Try our BEST to not let out tears.
> "P-Please... s-say something..."

[Neovereign]

Secunde:
>Start following.
>"You... You've made it impossible for me to do miracles..."
>Look heartbroken.
>"Onee-chan... you've killed me..."

Secunde:

> Try our BEST to not let out tears.
> "P-Ple-"

> "Killed!?" Gasanae stops, before quickly unfusing. Kogasa fumbles as the two separate, falling into the snow.
> "Daiyousei, I wouldn't do such a thing." Sanae says. "This is for your own good though. If you're caught bringing someone back when such a thing shouldn't be done, you'll be even worse off than being killed. I had to do this."

//Well, dammit.

ShinDai:

> "Ahaha, just kidding..."

> "Y-Yea... You don't even use the mallet as a weapon.. You've already got that needle."

Scavenger B:
>"Well um... I'd hate to burst your bubble, but I have to admit that the prank wouldn't have worked on me either way... If I was going to take the wood, I wouldn't need to touch it. Or get near it... Ehe~"

> "What? How?" Furi looks into the hole at the wood.
>_

[Evil_Nazgul0616]

Secunde:
>"B-But I wasn't going to use miracles for it. I was only asking if it was possible or right to use them for it... Because the other dimension doesn't work like ours..."
>Look down
>"I was only looking for alternative methods to set right what went wrong over there... But I guess that doesn't matter anymore, I won't be able to even help my followers effectively anymore... Then they'll realize I can no longer be the best goddess I can to them... and they'll lose faith and... I'll die..."

Scavenger B:
>"Watch this."
>Fly so we can see both the wood and a clear spot in the snow.
>Warp the wood to the spot.
>"Ta-da!"

[Tashi]

Secunde:

> "... Sorry for making you worry so much about me... I understand you care greatly for me... I'm sorry for everything I have could done that it's bad, onee-chan..."

*-*-*

ShinDai:

> "Yeah. No point using the mallet when I have that."

[Neovereign]

Secunde:
>"B-But I wasn't going to use miracles for it. I was only asking if it was possible or right to use them for it... Because the other dimension doesn't work like ours..."
>Look down
>"I was only looking for alternative methods to set right what went wrong over there... But I guess that doesn't matter anymore, I won't be able to even help my followers effectively anymore... Then they'll realize I can no longer be the best goddess I can to them... and they'll lose faith and... I'll die..."

Secunde:

> "... Sorry for making you worry so much about me... I understand you care greatly for me... I'm sorry for everything I have could done that it's bad, onee-chan..."

> Sanae's face goes from upset to angry, and before you know it, she slapped you.
> "How dare you say something like that!? Where's the Daiyousei I know?" Sanae asks. "She helped people without miracles and time stuff. And now you're just coming in and saying you're practically useless without them?"

Scavenger B:
>"Watch this."
>Fly so we can see both the wood and a clear spot in the snow.
>Warp the wood to the spot.
>"Ta-da!"

> You fly over, then warp the wood to the clear spot.
> Except... it seems the wood was just a picture, as it has fallen over, and is showing a blank side.
> "Ooh... How'd you do that?" The two ask.

ShinDai:

> "Yeah. No point using the mallet when I have that."

> "The needle can't do what the miracle mallet can though..."
>_

[Tashi]

//Aaand there's what I was thinking for a while.

Secunde:

> ... She has a point. It doesn't matter how much it hurts, she has a point.
> Cover our slapped cheek. Tears must not be retained anymore.
> "I-I... ... T-That's..."

*-*-*

ShinDai:

> "True."

[Evil_Nazgul0616]

Secunde:
>"N-No! I-I didn't mean it like that... Of course I can help people without them! It's just that... I'm a goddess now... my followers will expect more... and I can't risk losing them..."
>"W-Wait... Time stuff!? D-Don't tell me you took that away too!"

//Whelp, the other dimension is 100% fucked now.

Scavenger B:
>"It's my ability. I was born with it."

[Neovereign]

//Aaand there's what I was thinking for a while.

Secunde:

> ... She has a point. It doesn't matter how much it hurts, she has a point.
> Cover our slapped cheek. Tears must not be retained anymore.
> "I-I... ... T-That's..."

Secunde:
>"N-No! I-I didn't mean it like that... Of course I can help people without them! It's just that... I'm a goddess now... my followers will expect more... and I can't risk losing them..."
>"W-Wait... Time stuff!? D-Don't tell me you took that away too!"

//Whelp, the other dimension is 100% fucked now.

> "Yea, but you can do more. You've got their trust. You've got them a village of their own. The things you can already do will amaze them. You should trust yourself more. You probably have much more things, being a goddess now."

ShinDai:

> "True."

> SeiDai nods.

Scavenger B:
>"It's my ability. I was born with it."

> "Do it again." Furi says.
>_

[Tashi]

Secunde:

> Try to process what she just said. Try to imagine ourselves like a fairy... but like a normal one.
> Do we see the same good ol' Daiyousei? The gentle one that cares about everyone?

//I know, it's somewhat cloying.

[Evil_Nazgul0616]

Prime:
>Attempt to stop time.
>If successful, resume.

Secunde:
>If prime is unsuccessful in manipulating time:
>>Look of crushing despair.
>>"Y-You did take it away! W-What am I going to tell the other dimension me!? That I'm just as useful as her now!? S-She's not going to take it well... not at all..."
>Otherwise:
>>"B-But... I can't tap into my faith without miracles... I can't do anything else new as a goddess..."

Scavenger B:
>Nod.
>Warp the wood a few feet above itself.

RuuDai:
>check on movie and family.

Diana:
>beat.

[Neovereign]

Secunde:

> Try to process what she just said. Try to imagine ourselves like a fairy... but like a normal one.
> Do we see the same good ol' Daiyousei? The gentle one that cares about everyone?

//I know, it's somewhat cloying.

> You imagine yourself as a normal fairy.
> You're reminded of the old you. The very old you. The Dai-chan that was always timid and polite and caring, and would always try her best to help her friends and Cirno.
> It's... actually hard to remember more about your old self... Have you really changed that much? D-Did you use your warp frequently when you were like that, or was it just for battles? Why did the others even look up to you? It was something about the lake, right? You... just can't remember...

Prime:
>Attempt to stop time.
>If successful, resume.

Secunde:
>If prime is unsuccessful in manipulating time:
>>Look of crushing despair.
>>"Y-You did take it away! W-What am I going to tell the other dimension me!? That I'm just as useful as her now!? S-She's not going to take it well... not at all..."
>Otherwise:
>>"B-But... I can't tap into my faith without miracles... I can't do anything else new as a goddess..."

> You attempt to stop time.
> It fails.
> "It's not that bad, is it?" Sanae questions.

Scavenger B:
>Nod.
>Warp the wood a few feet above itself.

RuuDai:
>check on movie and family.

Diana:
>beat.

> You warp the wood above itself, and it falls slowly.
> "Ooh..." The two observe again.

> The movie continues.
> The family is alright. Yaia is sleeping now.

> Alt!Sakuya is waiting.
>_

[Tashi]

Secunde:

> "... I-I... get carried away so much, isn't it...?"
> Look at our hand.
> "... Did I...?"

[Evil_Nazgul0616]

Secunde:

> "... I-I... get carried away so much, isn't it...?"
> Look at our hand.
> "... Did I...?"

>Don't say this.

//It honestly doesn't feel right to me... Maybe it's the wording? The tone, perhaps? Besides, reminiscing on the past is fine, but getting stuck on it feels so strange with how much we've changed for the better. Why on earth are you looking at our past with remorse of all things?

>Rather, reflect on those memories and think harder:

>Did we used to warp that frequently? Oh yes! That's right! We were originally much more afraid of our warp than we are now. Of course we didn't use our warp as frequently back then, but that was because we were afraid of what it could do. Of course, we still feel that way sometimes, but overall, we've mastered our powers much more than before, and that is a giant leap forward!

>The fairies started looking up to us because of the thing with Medicine, and how we introduced the concept of being a good fairy to them, and how to act as such. It's hard to forget that.

>And we're still polite and caring. But timid? Yes, it seems we've definitely come a long way from that. Perhaps Cirno-chan is to thank for that... For starting us on the path to coming out of our shell.

>Under different circumstances, we should be smiling, but this would be inappropriate now...

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Secunde:
>"Y-You don't understand... The time magic would've been vital, perhaps moreso than miracles and other things, in setting right what went wrong in the other world, especially if we couldn't get our Sakuya to cooperate or figure out what went wrong with the other Sakuya's magic... Y-you've made me j-just as effective at helping that world as the other me, who, unlike me, has already completely lost faith in herself..."
>Look sad.
>"She was actually willing to completely disappear..."

Diana:
>On what?

[Tashi]

//Some things I have felt in this time it's how much we have been dependant to powers.
//I didn't mean to look to the past with remorse regarding of how much we changed for good. Sorry if it looked that way. Hell, if someone ask me if I want to return to my reclusive self, that person will be answered with a "HELL NO!"
//What I really meant with that is that we aren't the same old fairy of before (abilities wise), that's for sure, but I can notice it's just carried to an extreme of almost dependent to them.
//Of course, if our powers are used to help people (and I don't have any arguments for the time magic, because I think it's something NECESSARY right now) then there's nothing bad with it. Still, maybe it's just me, but I do find this a bit carried away. I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself clearly... (or I'm doing it so bad, which is not a surprise...)

//Going to bed.

[Evil_Nazgul0616]

//I'm heading off to bed as well.

>Proposing democracy mode (To take effect after the next parsing) because I feel we should cooperate to convince Sanae to at least undo the miracle lockout. (Time lockout as well, but I feel we might be able to do without it. Of course, if we undo the time lockout, we could then timehax and tell our past self to shut the hell up and avert this entirely... However, I feel miracles should take priority because they're more useful for helping others and will allow us to continue doing things for our lovers, not to mention make the third child Koa wants possible...)

>Allow actions that do not cause time to advance for Secunde. Since Kilga undoubtedly would have some action for his Dais that he would like to be parsed.

[Evil_Nazgul0616]

>Actually, rather than a true democracy mode where everyone votes on a command to give Secunde, make it a "pseudo-democracy", as in: wait for all players to either give a command to secunde or explicitly say not to wait on them before parsing.

>the thing about allowing actions that won't advance time for secunde still applies.

//now I'm really going to sleep. See you in about 8-9 hours...

[Neovereign]

>Don't say this.

//It honestly doesn't feel right to me... Maybe it's the wording? The tone, perhaps? Besides, reminiscing on the past is fine, but getting stuck on it feels so strange with how much we've changed for the better. Why on earth are you looking at our past with remorse of all things?

>Rather, reflect on those memories and think harder:

>Did we used to warp that frequently? Oh yes! That's right! We were originally much more afraid of our warp than we are now. Of course we didn't use our warp as frequently back then, but that was because we were afraid of what it could do. Of course, we still feel that way sometimes, but overall, we've mastered our powers much more than before, and that is a giant leap forward!

>The fairies started looking up to us because of the thing with Medicine, and how we introduced the concept of being a good fairy to them, and how to act as such. It's hard to forget that.

>And we're still polite and caring. But timid? Yes, it seems we've definitely come a long way from that. Perhaps Cirno-chan is to thank for that... For starting us on the path to coming out of our shell.

>Under different circumstances, we should be smiling, but this would be inappropriate now...

> Except, you don't recall them being the ones from the lake long ago.

Secunde:
>"Y-You don't understand... The time magic would've been vital, perhaps moreso than miracles and other things, in setting right what went wrong in the other world, especially if we couldn't get our Sakuya to cooperate or figure out what went wrong with the other Sakuya's magic... Y-you've made me j-just as effective at helping that world as the other me, who, unlike me, has already completely lost faith in herself..."
>Look sad.
>"She was actually willing to completely disappear..."

Diana:
>On what?

> "Why did she-"
> "But you didn't answer me." Sanae frowns, interrupting Kogasa.

> Your response.
>_

[Monarda]

Secunde:

>"No ! It won't be the same ! There were many things that i could only do with faith, healing and easing tiredness is just one of them ! Besides, i had just asked Kanako-sama and Suwako-sama about taboos ! They said it is a very varying thing between people."
>Cross our arms.
>"You never explained taboos to me, neither you did about the consequences, instead you just did this like i was fated to ! D-Do you really have that few trust on me ?!"

Moridai-chan T:

>"....o-onee-chan sealed me, i can no longer perform any miracles..."
>Look down.
>"She is afraid of me commiting taboo..."

[Suwako Moriya]

//I need a change to read through what's been said so far before forming a proper opinion on what to do next (I have a few ideas in a vacuum), but wow, what a fuckass Sanny is.

//Tangentially related: I really, really hope this teaches a good lesson about being unnecessarily persistent/belligerent about something that's obviously upsetting/uncomfortable for the person we're speaking to. This is far from the first time "we" got ourselves into trouble through completely needless and insensitive pestering. This isn't to say Sanny's in the right on the issue (because she isn't), but it is to say that the issue could have been avoided entirely in the first place with a modicum of tact.

[Monarda]

All Dai-chans:

>We still have the Sakuya magic correct ? We just can't tap into it right ?

[Monarda]

//Well you are technically the most persistent of all of us. :v

//But a fair point nevertheless.

[Suwako Moriya]

//Oh, certainly. I admit to belligerence at a not-uncommon rate. I do at least try to avoid situations where belligerence will actively upset people, though (mostly it's in cases where the worst outcome is that the person gets tired of my shit and demand I return them to normal).

//Persistence and belligerence themselves aren't inherently bad, they just need to take a back seat to sensitivity and tact sometimes.

[Tashi]

//What I admit it's what Sanae did... damn, that's REALLY an extreme decision. I think she is getting carried away by her beliefs a little too much.

[Evil_Nazgul0616]

>"You never explained taboos to me, neither you did about the consequences, instead you just did this like i was fated to ! D-Do you really have that few trust on me ?!"

>Add "I-I thought sisters were supposed to trust each other..."

//We could also check of Alterdai 2 and Diana can still use those magics, because the last time something locked us out of miracles, it didn't affect them because they were in another universe.

[Suwako Moriya]

//I have nothing additional to contribute to the current Secunde conversation at present. If she presses the point of 'doing other stuff', we can point out we've already made claims and demonstrated abilities we no longer have, and we're screwed if people expect us to use them again (I don't think this was ever explicitly stated). It may also be worth pointing out that, even if we CAN do new stuff, we don't know what that new stuff is, and we have no way of finding out, AND experimentation (AND just using a non-trivial amount of faith) is demonstrably dangerous and shouldn't be done lightly.

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2:

> How large is Hamiya now? Is her chest bigger than the rest of her yet?

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SenDai:

> Beat.

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YamaBug:

> Beat.

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X:

> Is Flora dreaming of anything?

[Neovereign]

Secunde:

>"No ! It won't be the same ! There were many things that i could only do with faith, healing and easing tiredness is just one of them ! Besides, i had just asked Kanako-sama and Suwako-sama about taboos ! They said it is a very varying thing between people."
>Cross our arms.
>"You never explained taboos to me, neither you did about the consequences, instead you just did this like i was fated to ! D-Do you really have that few trust on me ?!"

Moridai-chan T:

>"....o-onee-chan sealed me, i can no longer perform any miracles..."
>Look down.
>"She is afraid of me commiting taboo..."

All Dai-chans:

>We still have the Sakuya magic correct ? We just can't tap into it right ?

>Add "I-I thought sisters were supposed to trust each other..."

//We could also check of Alterdai 2 and Diana can still use those magics, because the last time something locked us out of miracles, it didn't affect them because they were in another universe.

> Yes.
> "That seems a bit of a harsh decision for her to make..." Kanako speaks.
> "Well, miracles were her thing that made her special..." Suwako speaks. "Maybe she's jealous that you can do what she can, and more."
> "The thing about the shrines probably didn't help either..."

> "I do trust you. But not with something like this." Sanae responds.

//I have nothing additional to contribute to the current Secunde conversation at present. If she presses the point of 'doing other stuff', we can point out we've already made claims and demonstrated abilities we no longer have, and we're screwed if people expect us to use them again (I don't think this was ever explicitly stated). It may also be worth pointing out that, even if we CAN do new stuff, we don't know what that new stuff is, and we have no way of finding out, AND experimentation (AND just using a non-trivial amount of faith) is demonstrably dangerous and shouldn't be done lightly.

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2:

> How large is Hamiya now? Is her chest bigger than the rest of her yet?

> It is.

SenDai:

> Beat.

> But it hasn't happened recently...

YamaBug:

> Beat.

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X:

> Is Flora dreaming of anything?

> Nothing new happens...

> No
>_

[Kilgamayan]

Secunde:

> Who else is present, aside from Sanny and Kogasa?

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2:

> Keep going, then.

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SenDai (F):

> Did Daiyousei do that?