Author Topic: NoTV 2 Mafia (Game Over, Scum and 3rd Party Win)  (Read 98162 times)

Dorian White

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #180 on: October 01, 2014, 10:49:29 PM »
PX:           NNR, Dormio, Conqueror, Dorian, Zakeri (5)
Dormio:       O4rfish (1)
NNR:          PX  (1) 
Shadoweh:     SB (1)
Zakeri:       Sky_Paladin, Raikaria, Mitsuki, BT (4)
CF7:          Shadoweh (1)
Mitsuki:      CF7 (1)
Sky Paladin:  ActionDan (1)

As aurate as it could get!  :D
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PX

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #181 on: October 01, 2014, 10:50:15 PM »
Dormio still hasn't basically moved at all ever since his "case" on rakaria. I say look there after I flip town. Of course, this will get lost to time forever since who listens to dead townie.

Unvote
Vote Zakeri

ActionDan

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #182 on: October 01, 2014, 10:50:40 PM »
##Unvote
##Vote Zakeri

I prefer this only slightly

Don't lynch me.

ActionDan

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #183 on: October 01, 2014, 10:51:24 PM »
L-1

(though PX's vote doesn't count because TAGS OP so really L-2)

Don't lynch me.

Conqueror

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #184 on: October 01, 2014, 10:52:09 PM »
Road posting ##unvote



On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

Conqueror

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #185 on: October 01, 2014, 10:54:07 PM »
##vote cf7[/b)

Don't think px scum after claim
Nor sure on Zak al though he's wrong


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

ActionDan

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #186 on: October 01, 2014, 10:55:56 PM »
##unvote
##Vote CF7

okay let's roll with this.

Even though it was one of your town reads before

Don't lynch me.

Conqueror

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #187 on: October 01, 2014, 10:57:23 PM »
Ed1 townread on tone. Reread his vote on Mitsubishi after Zak pin he's it out and it do Rees nt look too good.


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Bardiche

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #188 on: October 01, 2014, 10:57:44 PM »
Wait, deadline?!
         
Zakeri:  Sky_Pal, Raikaria, Mitsuki, BT, PX (5)   
CF7:    Shadoweh, Conqueror, ActionDan (2)                        
Shadoweh:    SB (1)         
PX:    NNR, Dormio, Dorian, Zakeri (4)            
Mitsuki:  CF7 (1)      

Not voting:   Oarfish (1)
With 15 people it takes 8 to lynch.
10 minutes remain!

Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #189 on: October 01, 2014, 10:58:26 PM »
##Unvote
##Vote: CF7


Jubilation?

Bardiche

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #190 on: October 01, 2014, 10:59:08 PM »
Friendly reminder: If no majority is reached by the end of the Day phase, we will lynch whoever has the most votes at the time. In the event of a tie, we will resolve using RNG.

Might as well...!
         
Zakeri:  Sky_Pal, Raikaria, Mitsuki, BT, PX (5)   
CF7:    Shadoweh, Conqueror, ActionDan, Zakeri (4)                        
Shadoweh:    SB (1)         
PX:    NNR, Dormio, Dorian (3)      
Mitsuki:  CF7 (1)      

Not voting:   Oarfish (1)
With 15 people it takes 8 to lynch.
10 minutes remain!
[/quote]

ActionDan

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #191 on: October 01, 2014, 11:04:31 PM »
PX, Zakeri or CF7 go!

Don't lynch me.

Dorian White

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #192 on: October 01, 2014, 11:06:32 PM »
OK, I may regret this but here we go!

##Unvote
##Vote: CF7


May Lady Luck make her choice for the better.^^
Bella gerant alii, tu felix Gensokyo nube. Nam quae Mars aliis, dat tibi diva Venus.

ActionDan

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #193 on: October 01, 2014, 11:07:31 PM »
the only troubling thing is zak not claiming but w/e

Don't lynch me.

Bardiche

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #194 on: October 01, 2014, 11:09:18 PM »
Deadline has fallen, votes will no longer be counted!  It is now Twilight 1!

Final votecount

Zakeri:  Sky_Pal, Raikaria, Mitsuki, BT, PX (5)   
CF7:    Shadoweh, Conqueror, ActionDan, Zakeri, Dorian (5)                       
Shadoweh:    SB (1)         
PX:    NNR, Dormio (2)     
Mitsuki:  CF7 (1)     

Not voting:   Oarfish (1)

Please wait warmly for Affinity to RNG.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2014, 11:11:20 PM by Affinity »

Bardiche

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day One)
« Reply #195 on: October 01, 2014, 11:09:48 PM »
Also, don't post in thread, shut up etcetera.

Affinity

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Night One)
« Reply #196 on: October 02, 2014, 12:07:40 AM »
The bell in the long-off distance chimed loudly as darkness fell upon the Human Village.  By the simple, primitive method of drawing lots, life and death was at once decided, and judgement was passed.  Before she could react, a sack was put unto Zakeri's head, and she was made to ascend the steps to the scaffold, where the lynching rope lay.  Quick, quiet murmuring was heard, as she recited the scientific theories she had been working on in haste amidst choked sobs.  Perhaps it was a means to bargain for her life, perhaps it was a way for her to verify her own existence before the time of death. 

But the sad truth of the matter was that the fear-crazed crowd had neither the patience nor the time to hear such things.  The events of dark ancestry and the horrors contained within simply overpowered their capacity for mutual understanding.  She was not there for a reason, they said.  Probably lurking to report back to her mistress later, possibly. 

Such thoughts were in the hearts of our heroines as the rope was hoisted up cruelly, the sound of friction like a deathstroke unto the guilty.  Choking sounds and muffled screams were heard in the process of dying, and just as the gruesome struggle finally ended, the sack fell, revealing a tall foreign-looking purple-haired girl with glasses from a long-off world. 

A maniacal laugh from the distance told them what their eyes did not wish to believe, and a general cry of alarm left the dead body of Rikako Asakura, Vanilla Townie swaying in the night wind.

Affinity

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Night One)
« Reply #197 on: October 02, 2014, 12:12:35 AM »
Zakeri's flip is as follows:

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You are Rikako Asakura, Vanilla Townie and human.  You have no special abilities

According to your calculations, Gensokyo as you know it ends this week.  Well, hopefully that isn't the case, but you're going to have to pull your weight with town to get through this.  You aim to survive and do more calculations, or something.

You win when town form the majority.  All the best.

===

It is now Night One.  You have 24 hours to send in night actions (preferably to both me and Bard).
« Last Edit: October 02, 2014, 12:40:48 AM by Affinity »

Affinity

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #198 on: October 03, 2014, 12:21:23 AM »
There was no joy in the sunrise today, only a general sense of dismay and gloom.  A thick, red mist has covered the entire village lately, and everything seemed saturated with scarlet, reeking of blood and rot.  Reluctantly, the villagers came out of their houses one by one, ready to spend their last day of premonition in accusatory tones and tearful anger.

No one died last night, it seems.  But this news was met with suspicion rather than delight.

Affinity

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #199 on: October 03, 2014, 12:21:45 AM »
It is now Day Two.  The night of the full moon is at hand.  With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

48 hours remain.

Affinity

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #200 on: October 03, 2014, 12:24:28 AM »
In an unrelated note, PX has been given a stern warning as to his inflammatory conduct towards NNR.  Another such infraction, and he'll be modkilled without hesitation.

Sky_Paladin

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #201 on: October 03, 2014, 12:26:34 AM »
(Why announce that in public?)
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Affinity

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #202 on: October 03, 2014, 12:27:45 AM »
So that others won't do the same thing.

BT

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Night One)
« Reply #203 on: October 03, 2014, 12:29:20 AM »
I was targeted with a certain action/effect/somethingelse during D1's twilight. Since this isn't a big thing to hide (and the other person knows this), for accountability's sake, I'd like the person responsible to stand up now, or never. That is all.





##Vote Dormio

Initially I didn't like the PX vote and thought Dormio might be apathetic scum. Reading his ISO has strenghened this suspicion: Town Dormio would have been more likely to cement why he thought PX's post was bad, or not completely drop Raikaria once his vote was switched. Notice that Dormio could have reacted to Raikaria's new posts but didn't, despite strong rhetoric in his Raikaria case such as "makes up a completely bullshit excuse to vote for CF7". Don't think this disinterest in Raikaria and PX comes from Town Dormio, who usually articulates his suspicions well.

Others I'd consider today are CF7, Sky, Oarfish, Mitsubishi, Shadoweh and NNR, in no particular order. I'm in the process of assessing these reads.

Hey Raikaria hey. Don't awfully suspect you but I'd like to address some things, mainly that you were around for deadline but didn't comment on Zak's posts when he showed up. Also want you to elaborate on your reads during D1 since you said you had some but your content scope is rather small. When it turned out my vote wasn't as bland as you thought it was, what happened to the other people you disliked on the Shadoweh wagon? You just kinda left it standing there in favor of Zak lurkiness.

ActionDan

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #204 on: October 03, 2014, 12:31:07 AM »
let's avoid ties this time.

I did not affect BT.

will think of voting options little later

Don't lynch me.

Sky_Paladin

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #205 on: October 03, 2014, 01:16:36 AM »
I thought behavior prods were supposed to be private.  And we have another 48 hour day phase?  Sheesh. 

Here is your hopefully one and only shit post of things I noticed/caught on the re-read.  Once again, the amount of content doubled after I went to bed in the last six hours of the phase.  Thanks guys. 

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PX calls out Mitsuki for calling out Oarfish for lurking. 

Please explain why you have an issue with this. 

Oarfish, for his part, had no vote yesterday when it was a tie between PX and Zakeri.  FYI I hate random flips, it should be first-past-the-post or something.  I think not voting is super scummy regardless of Zak/PX's alignment. 

PX:  "The Shadoweh Wagon is dumb."
Why?

PX
Randomly calls me out for flavor gaming. 

We actually had Oarfish and Dorian focusing on flavor gaming, so I want to know why PX called for me over them. 

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Dorian:
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For an instance, rule 5. and 6. make a lot of sense when you think that scum had two vampires and one not-vampire in their team back then. You see what I mean?

I assumed there were two scum players and they could recruit a third not-vampire player.  Are you saying there is already a third player, and they can recruit a fourth? 

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Dan
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This doesn't answer the question of why you'd vote someone (why it's scummy) for not including an explanation for their vote.  None is required if it's RVS, and if it isn't the explanation according to you is implicit.

Because I felt that it was a policy vote rather than a RVS vote.  I thought that a scum player might want to be able to justify their votes, and a policy vote in RVS is a great way to do it, and the lack of explanation attached to said vote seemed odd to me.  If it feels odd, I'll vote it. 

Dan
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I did not affect BT.

How about 'lets not all comment on who did not do it so scum cant work out who did it by POE thanks'. 

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SB
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I'm kind of wary of Skypal atm because there's none of the usual insane energy in his posts and the best scumread he put out was basically on Zak for not doing anything? It's not that I disagree with it, but calling out inactivity/lack of opinions when you have none yourself doesn't really sit right with me?

I'm trying not to shitpost this game, so I'm happy you're noticing a difference~
I voted for Zak because he stated an intent to not do anything and then consolidate at phase end, when his only vote so far was to policy vote Dan for doing nothing.  So, I voted for him because he basically vote parked and I thought that was scum.  There was plenty of other material to discuss, including the emergent wagons on NNR, PX, and even Shadoweh.  So it was really unacceptable to vote park that early in the phase and never come back to address it, and ever worse to state that was your plan.  Of course he flipped green so ugh. 

Before Zak, I'd already voted you and Oarfish, and made a number of posts, so it's not like I am lacking activity or opinions.  I'm just trying not to wall post every time. 

Also I kind of feel that every time I go to bed right before a phase end, SB tries to start/push a Sky wagon, so this is not on it's own alignment indicative. 

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In response to BT
I thought/think the scum team has two players and have a facional ability to recruit a third.  Because it would be OP if town lynched a recruiter before night 2. 

When Conqueror said, "Was tempted to firebomb a lurker here since they would be prime suspects for scum recruiter but I'll start here", I assumed that a recruiter would want to target a lurker, such as Dan/Zak (players who normally coast through to LYLO without doing anything).  At the time I thought poorly of Conqueror for suggesting this - if we are just gonna lynch a lurker to avoid a conversion, we might as well policy lynch.  Then I considered that scum often lurk too.  So I felt this strategy was unintentionally sound - we may actually net a scum, and at the very worst we would kill off a useless player in a non-critical phase.  ActionDan's alignment and afkness ALWAYS comes up, more often than not in LYLO; if we are going to lynch a lurker, the best time is day 1 before we have wagon analysis and night info to go on.  We then had Zak state publicly he was going afk, and I went -> IDEA. 

So my interpretation was "Let's lynch a lurker because scum will recruit from them (and secretly there could be a scum in there!)". 

When SB posted another interpretation, an interpretation that was different from mine, I wondered what the reason was.  I assumed there was only one interpretation from a town-minded player, and that if SB had a different interpretation, then he was coming from a different mindset - one of scum.  So that is why I voted him for it.  However, Conqueror then said that I was the one who read it wrong, so I was quite frustrated by that. 

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Oarfish came in near phase end and unvoted because no real reason when wagons were tied/close/something or other, town should have made a decision.  I would have probably kept on voting Zak because I am a jerk though.  I think he's scum for being unwilling to commit to a wagon.  Town doesn't really care if they mislynch a lurker, scum care a lot if they can't explain their vote. 

Coincidentally I pegged Oarfish for not explaining his RVS early day 1 so this feels too good to be true.  But I want to beleive o/

##vote Oarfish

Arbitrary scumteam picks:  Oarfish, PX, Dan. 

I will reflect on Dormio/CF7 after my doctor appointment *shudder*
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Dorian White

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #206 on: October 03, 2014, 02:11:37 AM »
I have to admit that I am a bit lost right now~ so let's try to pick up where I left*

@BT: my question still stands~ what was so town about PX #94? also for someone who starts the day by calling raikaria out on his handling of the zakeri wagon were you quit certain on that matter and you did surprisingly little with zakeris content yourself* how does that come?
And no~ I didn't visited you* not in twilight not at night*

but well~ we got indeed a bigger fish to fry here!

##vote: raikaria

you mostly just vote-parked on zakeri and did do much else~ aside from some criticism on other cases which lacked any conclusion* so who do you think is scum and why?

PS: things went strange for me lately~ which means that I have to be more careful from now on* but there is no need to worry~ the fun will go on~ ^.^/ (when it isn't 4am)
Bella gerant alii, tu felix Gensokyo nube. Nam quae Mars aliis, dat tibi diva Venus.

PX

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #207 on: October 03, 2014, 02:22:43 AM »
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Please explain why you have an issue with this. 

Other parts of the forums are not mafia. It is lame, not part of mafia.

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Why?

Should I defend someone who I think is town? I think Shadoweh is good enough to handle that herself.

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Randomly calls me out for flavor gaming. 

My bad, that was Raikaria. Sorry for getting stuff wrong when I was reading it at work on my phone during my lunch break while the forum was breaking everywhere.

Conqueror

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #208 on: October 03, 2014, 02:28:03 AM »
BT is probably 99% town for various reasons, although I question the value of having whoever visited him during twilight claim.

##Vote: CF7

I wasn't able to elaborate on this since I was driving, but I really disliked the way he came in near the deadline, said he was confused, and just vamoosed. The Mitsuki vote has been harped on already. I don't think his reaction is terrible, per se, but I dislike his lack of followup, plus the way he handwaved the wagons on Shadoweh and Zak while staying on Mitsuki. Reads of apathy, and not the town kind. My impression of yesterday is that we had town/town wagons on Zak/PX and the scum were just fine with letting us lynch them. Not a sure thing, but PX's posts when he was almost lynched felt more like town than scum flailing.

Oarfish is pretty much guilty of the same thing but I want him to actually post before I decide if I want to throw the kitchen sink at him. I want Dormio to tell us if his quick skim told us anything, and also elaborate on his reasons for voting PX. These three are probably my pool of lynches for today.

People I want to look at: Sky, Raikaria, and Mitsuki, mostly because most of their content involves non-posting Zakeri. I think the little that Mitsuki posted was okayish, and Sky's latest post seems decent. Raikaria, well, I think his play matches up with his bull-headed town posting but I want to see what else these three come up with.

I want Shadoweh to talk about other people so I can tell if she's scum parking on a townie ala Pictures of Birds or a townie parking on someone she thinks is scum ala Medaka Box. :V If CF7 is scum though, Shadoweh is almost certainly town.

I don't particularly think NNR is scum but I will probably reread him just in case.

Everyone I haven't mentioned is probably town.


On tue un homme, on est un assassin. On tue des millions d'hommes, on est un conqu?rant. On les tue tous, on est un dieu.
Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.

PX

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Re: NoTV 2 Mafia (Day Two)
« Reply #209 on: October 03, 2014, 02:30:19 AM »
Vote Dormio